Tips May 29, 2019 14:56

According to Maezawa’s answer, “There’s no such thing as a going rate. Women can name the amount they want regardless of their class, and men can pay whatever they can afford to pay that woman, regardless of her class.”

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If that’s the case, though, isn’t it contradictory that staff assign classes based on the standard that “the prettier the woman, the higher her class and the higher her setup fee,” according to their objective evaluation? I think this is why men continue to believe that “the amount is determined by the woman’s class.” It feels like the women’s true feelings (the amount they want, regardless of class), the men’s true feelings (wanting to determine the amount based on class = appearance), the staff’s true feelings (the amount should be decided regardless of class), and the club’s official stance (the prettier the woman, the higher the amount; the less attractive she is, the lower it is) are completely out of sync. Isn’t that why the debate over class assignments never seems to end? If so, why not determine a woman’s class from the amount she declares she wants from the outset, rather than through an objective evaluation of her appearance? If it’s self-declared, then whether the amount is too high or she receives no offers as a result is her own responsibility. Men wouldn’t have anything to complain about, and if they knew the requested amount in advance, there would be no more trouble from finding out after meeting that the amount didn’t match. It would also save the staff the trouble of reviewing class assignments, wouldn’t it?
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Maezawa here. > “There’s no such thing as a going rate. Women can name whatever amount they want, regardless of their level, and men can pay whatever they can afford to pay that woman, regardless of her level.” You understand perfectly. That’s exactly right. What else could there be? > “Isn’t that contradictory?” I don’t think it’s contradictory. The setting fee is something the club determines, so the amount set by the club has nothing to do with the allowance a woman requests. The woman has her desired amount, the man has the amount he’s willing to pay, and it simply comes down to whether or not they can agree. Trying to force things to fit the man’s preferred amount while ignoring the woman’s requested amount—that, I believe, is the “going rate” you have in mind. In the first place, a going rate is almost a meaningless concept. You can’t simply carry yesterday’s market expectations into today. And trying to keep the allowance the same forever in the future is also completely at odds with the idea of a going rate. If you’re going to call it a going rate, it should fluctuate over time. But aren’t you thinking of it as the same as it was one or two years ago? If it hasn’t changed, then it isn’t a going rate. It’s simply the maximum amount the questioner feels able to pay. That’s how I see it. Of course, you’re free to decide how much you can pay and what you consider reasonable. The other person is free to do the same. Even so, trying to use the term “going rate” to force things into a fixed amount seems unreasonable. If you want to keep the amount you pay low, rather than worrying about the going rate, show the woman you dated that you’re the kind of man who can win her over. Women are human too. If you’re the kind of man she could genuinely fall for, you may be able to enjoy time together for the fixed amount you consider the going rate—or if she truly falls for you, she may decide she doesn’t need any money at all.
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