I’ve been a member for a month and have met seven people, and I have a question.
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After the first meeting, if they ask, “What are you doing after this?” but they’re not exactly my type, what do you all do?
Since I’m the one making the offers, it’s not as though they’re completely outside my preferences. However, they’re not exactly what I’m looking for either, and even when they invite me to meet again later, I don’t feel like seeing them a second time.
Everyone has been surprisingly nice, and none of them seemed jaded or worldly in the way I had imagined. They were completely different from what I expected.
That actually makes it difficult to turn them down, and I feel guilty.
Do you steel yourselves and keep declining until you meet someone who’s exactly your type? Do you agree for now and arrange a second meeting anyway? Do you go through with it that time and then decline afterward? What do you all do?
At the moment, I’ve been accepting everyone, and I feel like I’m letting the activity itself get ahead of my feelings. It’s taking me further and further away from my original intention of finding one person to see regularly over the long term.
Also, roughly how many people did you meet before finding someone you felt was the right person?
Reading the respondents’ answers, I can tell that they’re enjoying this so skillfully, and I’m honestly envious.
Of course, in my private life, if someone invites me out and I don’t have feelings for them, I can turn them down.
But with this activity, I’m the one initiating things, so I feel bad about it.
👤Asked byGuest👨GenderMale🎂60s👑Universe male member
What a greedy old bastard in his 60s.
Once you’ve made the offer, you’re the one asking for what’s been set before you, so stop complaining and finish what you started. She’s coming to meet you—at least initially—expecting an adult relationship and because she wants the money. The least you can do is respond in kind; that’s basic courtesy and decency.
After that, if you decide not to meet a second time, I can understand. But this applies only to types C and D, or a second date with type B2.
Imagine how it feels from the woman’s perspective: being approached by a man over 60, only to be told, “Sorry, I’m turning you down because you’re not exactly my type.” Just because you have money doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want. There are lines you shouldn’t cross. It’s rude.
Also, you wrote that you’re “looking for one person to stay with for a long time,” but people who say that are usually the ones who meet multiple women and never make anything last. They don’t understand their own feelings. Translated honestly, “looking for one person to stay with for a long time” means “meeting many people briefly.”
People who truly maintain long-term relationships aren’t searching for some ideal partner; they simply value the connections they happen to make. If you recognize that you’re an old, unattractive, spiritually impoverished man, and that every woman willing to spend time with you is a goddess, you’ll start seeing a whole new world.
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If you make an offer to someone with dating type B2, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with ending the meeting after dinner only if she isn’t exactly your type.
Since the first meeting is generally just dinner anyway, it’s highly unlikely she’ll invite you somewhere afterward. And even if she does, you can simply say that, because she’s B2, you had planned to part ways after dinner.
So I find it strange that you’re asking what to do. The answer is simple:
Make an offer to a B2 woman.
Problem solved.
This is what happens when you make an offer to someone whose dating type doesn’t match what you’re looking for, even though these types exist for a reason.
Choose the dating type that genuinely suits what you want.
Because you’re getting that part wrong, you end up feeling distressed and coming out with this kind of nonsensical question.
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Thanks for sharing your brag.
What you need to remember is that 70–80% of the women are there to be “held by Eiichi Shibusawa”—in other words, for the money.
The questioner’s face just looks like Eiichi to them, which is why they’re saying yes. Don’t get the wrong idea.
This is Fuu speaking, currently 2 wins and 3 losses with Patro’s ¥0 offers, lol.
It was my first time trying Patro’s ¥0 offers, and with tardiness, no-shows, and so on, things were pretty chaotic. I was on edge, and sometimes it was actually kind of exciting, lol.
That month really made me realize how important the club’s management and the staff’s oversight on Patro are, as well as the interviews and explanations provided by the staff. I finally understood why they divide people into different classes, and I felt genuinely grateful to the club!
To begin with, papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) is ultimately about money. Among women who are there for the money, do you really think there’s one person who’s perfect in every way? That sounds like nothing more than a fantasy to me.
If you have money, support lots of women and help keep the economy moving. Give something back to young women.
Can’t you have one girl for intimacy, another for a girlfriend-like vibe, another for conversation, one in her twenties, another in her thirties, one slender, another slightly chubby, one with long black hair, one with short brown hair, one for a flashy look, and one for a refined, wholesome look?
There’s no one person who’s perfect at everything.
At least, I don’t know any—lol.
Love is blind, so when you’re smitten, you don’t notice the flaws. But there’s no way you can stay objective.
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I’m not entirely sure what you mean by “right in the middle,” but I don’t think anyone is truly my perfect type.
I also can’t tell whether someone would be a good dating partner until we become intimate. So even if she isn’t exactly my type, I go ahead with it and decide afterward. If she isn’t my type, I steer things toward ending with dinner only (no intimacy).
I don’t recall ever meeting a woman who was overly forward and said something like, “How about we go somewhere after this?” Maybe it’s because I’m the one who brings up the allowance and what happens going forward.
Based on my personal experience, I’d say fewer than one in a hundred relationships ever developed into something where I thought, “This person might be special.”
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If you don’t realize that this is an annoyingly self-important question, that’s already a serious problem.
There’s absolutely nothing happening there—nothing at all, to the point that it’s painful to watch.
It sounds like something a delusional guy who’s inexplicably popular on a dating show would say.
It feels like the space-time in front of the person asking the question has warped.
For now, just be grateful and worship him.
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I’m nowhere near as successful as Makeotoko. I’d say I get about half as many offers. Today I had a first meeting with a B2 woman, but things started going downhill once we discussed the terms, so I’m sure she’ll turn me down.
Anyway, getting back to your question—why not? Even if you’re not really feeling it after making an offer, you’re still agreeing with the woman and going through with it.
As long as you’re not rejected by all seven women, you’re a man who’s accepted by women in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
For now, don’t worry about other men and just keep making offers. You may eventually develop your own pattern for enjoying things successfully, at least from the questioner’s perspective.
I also wandered around quite a bit when I first started. I’ll look forward to hearing your feedback after you’ve gained more experience.
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If she’s a Type C, let’s try everything at least once. Women are calculating the money too, after all. You can’t take it with you when you die, so you might as well spend it—including on the lower half.
Start turning her down from the second time onward.
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> If you’re looking for one person to stay with for the long term, then given your age, you really don’t have the luxury of taking things slowly.
With only a limited amount of life left,
I feel you should live in the present.
You’ll probably need to meet around 100 people to find that one person.
Also, as a basic courtesy, you should provide the allowance on the first day. The key is to satisfy the women, so as long as you act and make decisions based solely on your own standards, the chances of being seen as a good papa (a male supporter) will only decrease.
As a result, you may end up moving further and further away from achieving your own satisfaction.
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I think it’s best not to overthink it.
Speaking for myself, when I make an offer to a woman who is a C- or D-type, if she agrees to the allowance even when things aren’t quite as expected, I’ll have an adult relationship (intimate) with her at least once. Even then, I don’t change the allowance depending on the person.
That said, if you watch the video carefully, there usually shouldn’t be much difference in terms of appearance.
The only woman who really shocked me was someone who, the moment she sat down at the restaurant, told me she felt uncomfortable having dinner with me because she didn’t really know anything about me. For reference, I make my profile visible to women I offer, and I include a reasonable amount of information, but apparently she hadn’t looked at it at all.
She was a C-type flight attendant. We got along reasonably well over dinner after I made an effort to put her at ease, but I assumed we would part ways afterward. Then she asked me if we weren’t going to a hotel after dinner. I was stunned, but we went to one anyway. She was naturally gorgeous with a great figure and exactly my type, but I ended things after that one time.
You can’t really know what someone is like on the inside until you go on a date with them.
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My main focus is on B2 and B1, so I don’t progress things beyond a first meeting on day one to begin with. Even if the other person is a C type, I often let them know in advance that the first meeting will just be a first meeting.
I’d say maybe one or two out of ten are people I’d consider continuing to see. As for finding someone who’s truly my ideal match, I may not have met that person yet. (Even if I did, I’d probably be the one getting rejected.)
That said, I’ve never expected one person to fulfill everything I’m looking for, so I date multiple people with the mindset of simply making more friends.
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I think I’ve met around 250 women in total through Universe Club and PATOLO. I’m doing my best not to lose to my rival, Andy.
Out of those 250, there are only two women I’ve felt I’d want to spend the rest of my life with. So the odds are under 1%.
You can’t know whether you’re truly compatible without being intimate, and even that alone may not tell you. So I don’t think there’s any alternative to continuing to meet lots of women.
Rather than meeting 10 women, agonizing over it, and then being intimate with just one, try being intimate with at least five or six of them.
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