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Feb 16, 2026 11:36
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🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
The allowance doesn’t change according to the “class” assigned by Universe Club, but according to the “My Rank” decided by the papa. Alternatively, the allowance may stay the same while the frequency of meetings changes.
For example:
- A woman I meet ten times at ¥60,000 per meeting
- A woman I meet once every few months at ¥60,000 per meeting
That sort of thing.
As far as I’m concerned, the going rates for My Rank are almost exactly what Maezawa-san described:
Black Rank: ¥100,000–¥200,000
Platinum Rank: ¥70,000–¥100,000
Gold Rank: ¥50,000–¥70,000
The highest allowances I’ve ever given were all to women who were Platinum Class at Universe Club. I’m still seeing two of them—one for four years and the other for five.
The highest allowance I’ve given to a woman Universe Club had placed in Gold Class was ¥120,000 per meeting. I considered her My Rank to be Black, so that’s what I paid. We’re still close, and we’ve been seeing each other for over four years.
Among the women Universe Club had placed in Black Class, the highest allowance I gave was ¥200,000 per meeting, and we met three or four times a month. She’s a woman working hard in the entertainment industry, and these days we’re intimate without any allowance involved.
Male members absolutely hate talking about allowances. I think it’s because they all want to be in love.
I don’t have romantic feelings for any of the women. “Supporting my favorites” is the closest way to describe how I feel. I want to support their lives as a whole, so I give them as much allowance as I can.
Several women have managed to move “beyond papa-katsu” through this kind of relationship with me. They’re friends for life.
I’ve also been trying the world of ¥50,000 per meeting, but so far it’s been a complete failure.
I haven’t given up, though, and I’m still trying to meet women at that rate through PATOLO. But it’s difficult for me. I still haven’t found the right answer...
I’m worried about whether they’re truly satisfied with ¥50,000 per meeting. There’s also the assumption that no woman could really be satisfied with that amount and is merely putting up with it.
That makes it difficult for me to become emotionally invested, so to speak.
If there are any women who are “completely satisfied with ¥50,000 per meeting♡ and totally fine with a long date,” I’d be happy to receive a reverse offer.
But I’m sure I’d still wonder, “Are you really satisfied?”
> It may depend on the person, but in my case, the allowance has nothing to do with whether I’m satisfied.
> If intimacy ends in an instant, it’s boring. I’m more satisfied when we spend plenty of time together.
> And if we have dinner and go to a bar afterward, I’m extremely satisfied.
> Whether I’m satisfied depends on what we do on the date, not the allowance.
You’re like an urban legend, Yozakura-san.
My dates usually last two hours. Anything longer makes me feel bad.
You mean having dinner and going to a bar after being intimate? I honestly can’t imagine it. I’d just say, “You should head home,” and send her on her way. I want to get back to work too.
Work hard, earn money, and give as much of it back to the women as possible—that’s my style. It won’t change, and I probably couldn’t change it even if I wanted to.
I love all of my monthly arrangement partners. But it’s completely different from being in love.
They each have their own lives, and all I do is support them. I want them to spend as little time with me as possible and use the time they save for themselves.
There are women who want a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, and at the moment, about five of them call me their boyfriend.
But I feel like I’m ruining their lives by allowing that. So what I always tell them is, “If you find a boyfriend your own age, you’re free to date him, okay?”
I don’t understand what it means for me to be someone’s only boyfriend. I’m happy they feel that way, but they’re still young. They need to get married, have children, and find happiness.
I’ve always reminded myself that I’m a supporter and benefactor, and must not become anything more than that. I’ll continue with this same style going forward.
There are plenty of papas who want a serious romantic relationship, so I’ll leave the romance to them.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
They use classes rather than ranks:
Black Class, Platinum Class, Gold Class, and Standard Class, from highest to lowest.
The allowance often varies depending on a woman’s class, though some people offer the same amount regardless of class.
As a rough guideline:
- Black Class: ¥100,000–¥150,000 or more
- Platinum Class: ¥70,000–¥100,000 or more
- Gold Class: ¥50,000–¥70,000 or more
- Standard Class: Around ¥50,000
That said, some Black Class women receive only ¥50,000, while some Platinum Class women receive ¥200,000. These figures are just rough guidelines, so it’s perfectly normal to receive either less or more than that—there’s no need to worry about it.
And even knowing these figures won’t be all that useful. I think it’s better to focus on how to make a man like you and what you can do to make him want to give you a larger allowance.
Ultimately, when a man really likes a woman, he may buy her a car, a luxury handbag, or give her a more generous allowance, depending on how much he likes her.
That said, it’s also important to judge the man you’re dealing with carefully. Someone without much financial leeway won’t give more even if he likes you, while someone who has set a fixed amount as a personal policy won’t increase it even if he has plenty of money or really likes you.
If you can learn to identify those differences and master the art of making yourself appealing to the men you meet, I think you’ll be able to get closer to your goal.
🏅 日没を遅らせる唯一の方法は日没に向かって走り続けることだ
名古屋支店登録で、男性会員としての登録名もマックさんです。コラム多数書いてますのでよろしければご参照ください。20代の細身女性が好みで逆オファーには前向きです。経験無いまたは少ない方大歓迎。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
No one else seems to be pointing this out, so I’ll say it: the statement
> “I understand that the allowance changes according to a woman’s rank (class), but…”
is fundamentally mistaken. It may be true that allowances vary from woman to woman, but class isn’t necessarily a factor.
I’m not sure whether the questioner is seriously misunderstanding things or deliberately trying to steer the discussion in that direction, but I wanted to point this out so no one gets the wrong idea.
I dislike women who “only like money,” but I can accept women who “like men who give them money.” In other words, I like women who see money as the pheromones a man himself gives off. Does that make sense?
Edit:
This has turned into a bragging contest. Excellent, haha.
The college student who’s sleeping naked beside me tonight is someone I met through an app for adult relationships at 30,000 yen. I liked her, so I told her, “I’ll give you 50,000 yen each time.” She was delighted and said, “Is that really okay? In that case, I’ll only see you. I never really wanted to be with multiple people anyway.”
I told her, “At Universal, 50,000 yen for an adult relationship is normal, and someone might even offer you more. I know a scout, so I could introduce you if you want.”
She replied, “No, I’m fine with just you. I have schoolwork, and I want to keep my restaurant job, so I’m not planning to get a boyfriend for the time being.”
I said, “As you know, I date multiple people, so you don’t have to hold back.”
“No, I’m really fine for now. Thank you for making time to see me like this several times a month.”
Then she hugged me tightly.
If I had her interview at Universal, she’d definitely rank platinum or higher. So, for me, the best girl wasn’t someone at Universal’s black level, but someone who wouldn’t even try to join after I recommended it.
Incidentally, she’s currently the only one I have an unprotected arrangement with—among the women I see, she’s the only one I’m intimate with without protection. When she said she would only see me, I asked, “Then would you be okay being my unprotected partner? The allowance will stay at 50,000 yen, but I’ll contact you first whenever I have time, so we’ll be able to meet more often.”
She said, “Yes, please.”
The next day, she went to a gynecologist on her own and started taking the pill voluntarily.
During our dates, I constantly tell her she’s cute, and “Thank you” is her catchphrase. I swear she says it about twenty times during a single date.
“I’m going to finish.”
“Yes, thank you.”
Afterward, when I’m completely exhausted, she wraps her arms around my back and hugs me with a huge smile. It feels like I’m being rewarded for finishing.
Recently, as soon as we meet on our date days, she’s started hugging me in public without caring who sees us.
“Are you sure? Wouldn’t it be awkward if your friends saw you?”
“I don’t think they’re looking. Is it a problem for you?”
“No, I don’t mind. I’m actually happy about it.”
“Thank you.”
And then she hugs me tightly again.
I basically think college girls are catlike animals, but this one is more like a dog. There’s a saying that a loyal retainer doesn’t serve two lords, but she’s a loyal girl rather than a loyal dog. I’ll take good care of her.
Since these are overnight dates, I’m probably keeping them with me for more than twelve hours. Recently, my weekday nights have been filled with girls who can stay overnight, so I’m no longer sleeping alone. I sleep well and wake up feeling refreshed when I’m holding a young woman. As I’ve written before, they smell wonderful.
When I think about it, I’m living like an emperor. Whenever I feel like it, I can sleep beside a naked woman and finish inside her. Could there be any greater pleasure?
Someday, I’d love to become brothers in the “college-girl cup” with the man in his sixties who says he’s finished with college girls, haha. Before we both burn out and turn to charcoal.
The girl sleeping beside me now only wants me, though, so that won’t be possible.
50半ばのオッサン
Male
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🏅 特に無し
ライトにやっています お互いのフィーリング重視です
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Very broadly speaking, it depends more on:
· Your market value
· Your papa’s financial situation
· Whether it’s an ongoing arrangement or a one-time transactional relationship
Please consider various people’s opinions and decide what feels right for you.
Wishing you and your papa lasting happiness.
アンディ
Male
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顔合わせの刺激が好きすぎてオファー続けてます。町中華をこよなく愛してます。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
Everyone has explained it quite thoroughly, so their answers should give you a good reference point.
For my part, I don’t vary the allowance based on a woman’s class, so please keep in mind that there are members like that as well.
Also, female members can’t find out what class they’re in, so even if you know the general figures, I don’t think it would be all that meaningful for you.
迷わない70代
Male
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パパ活歴11年目、回答者歴8年目の関西在住者。パパ活終活中(笑)
Age: 70 or older
👨 Male
Former Universe member
I’m currently seeing five women, all with allowances of five or less—one of them gets nothing. Their club classes range from Standard to Black, including their past registrations. Right now, they include fashion models, flight attendants, stay-at-home wives, and all sorts of others.
When I tell them I might retire from club activities, they say, “I don’t mind if the allowance stops, but you can’t retire yet.” But I think I’m done with female university students… lol
To Mac:
Please let me know if you get the chance. I think it might be nice to rediscover what’s great about female university students before I turn to ashes. lol
🏅 ラッキーゴールドの探査技師
関西在住で多趣味です。
最近、筋トレにて、体重は減っていないのに、ウエストは減りまくりで、筋肉の増量と体脂肪の減量との両立を実現しております。
スタンダードクラス、ゴールドクラスで磨くと光りそうな方にオファーすることが多いです。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
In my case, nothing has changed.
Let me share my personal view here.
The classes at Universe Club are set to maximize the club’s revenue. Revenue is calculated as the fee set for each class—or as a special fee—multiplied by the number of offers.
Even if someone commands a high fee, they may be placed in a higher class if they’re expected to receive enough offers. Conversely, it’s not uncommon to hear that someone was in the Black class but was moved to a different class because they received very few offers.
There’s probably also a correlation where lowering the fee increases the number of offers, so it’s possible they use AI or something similar to determine the class that will maximize revenue.
Once the club has decided someone’s class, men have to follow it when it comes to the introduction fee, but they don’t have to follow the class in other respects. You can negotiate, and as long as both sides agree, any amount is fine.
The club itself also avoids getting involved in the allowance amount, since doing so could lead to complicated legal issues.
In my case, I generally don’t negotiate. If I’m not satisfied with the amount the other person names, I simply end things after the first meeting or dinner. Even if I initially agree, if I feel the amount is too high, there usually won’t be a second meeting.
For me, my sense of the going rate stays the same regardless of class. In that sense, I’m free from the classes set by the club.
I also make offers to women who have ended up in Standard or Gold—someone whose nose is a little prominent, who is just shy of being conventionally beautiful, or who has certain quirks that come through in their videos but is personally my type.
I make offers to Black and Platinum members too, but I tend to choose women who aren’t being flooded with offers. Otherwise, the terms are too high and it becomes an exhausting battle of attrition. I’m not looking for someone popular.
In the club world, whether you ignore the classes or follow them, you still end up feeling like you’re being made to dance in the palm of the club’s hand.
横断歩道
Male
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🏅 デート開拓者
ユニバース5年目。女性とはいろいろな商業施設に行ってデートしています。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
The amount can vary dramatically at a dating club depending on the nature of the relationship and your compatibility with the other person—that’s part of what makes these clubs enjoyable. So seeing questions like this, asking for what’s basically a sex-industry price list, is pretty discouraging.
At the very least, I’d like people to explain what kind of relationship they’re looking for. (Type A and Type D are completely different, after all.)
If all you care about is the allowance, you’d probably be better off looking at the rates—or job listings—for adult entertainment venues you might qualify for, such as host clubs or soaplands.
Edit:
Adult entertainment venues are simple because they have set price lists, and even the extras are clearly priced.
At a dating club, you can have the kind of relationship that works for both parties, but that also means you have to negotiate the terms.
Start by thinking about what kind of relationship you want. Depending on your answer, an adult entertainment venue or an app might be easier and more suitable.
Universe could also use new types with limited date options, such as two-hour dates only or no meals.
Actually, I’d rather not receive offers from people like that, so I wish they’d separate them.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
There’s also the guideline written by Maezawa-san, and even with the same woman, the amount can vary depending on the man, right?
Since a man’s value is judged from a woman’s perspective, would the ranking be an inverted pyramid?
Standard: ¥150,000 or more—or no arrangement
Gold: ¥100,000 or more
Platinum: ¥50,000–¥70,000 or more
Black: Around ¥50,000 or less
If a woman genuinely wants to date someone, I don’t think she would negotiate or demand an allowance. It’s different if her goal is simply to make money, though…
There’s nothing uglier than women bragging about their allowances… (Doesn’t that basically mean they’re seeing someone they dislike that much?)
Still, perhaps only a very small number of club women actually want a relationship. The men may be partly responsible for that too… even if allowances are the priority.
> “I’m perfectly happy with ¥50,000 per meeting♡ I’m totally fine with long dates too!”
There’s no such thing as a “loser guy” from the very beginning. A loser guy probably couldn’t manage ¥50,000 per meeting anyway…
Women, just like men, also care whether their partner is happy, pleased with them, and satisfied. Having someone take an interest in them fulfills their need for validation and emotional fulfillment.
It’s important for the man to show that he’s absolutely delighted and completely smitten. Unfortunately, if he’s a loser guy who doesn’t fall for her, that won’t come across…
As for “the other side of papa-katsu,” it would happen much sooner if he became completely smitten too…
I’ve had experiences like this with women from a dating club.
At first, we met almost every day, and early on she confided in me about a very serious situation she was struggling with—something that would normally make a man walk away. After hearing her out, I gave her ¥3 million in allowance upfront. Of course, if she had disappeared, that would have been the end of it.
Which side is stronger: the person giving the allowance, or the person who could run off with it? Who knows…
Even if she had run off with the ¥3 million, I was prepared to accept it without regret—and I think she could feel that. After that, one way or another, I ended up giving or entrusting her with nearly ¥10 million upfront. If she ran off with it, then so be it…
Just as some people meet, instantly click, and get married, that kind of instant connection can happen at a dating club too.
People at clubs tend to be more proactive on both sides, especially the men. Since the number of offers is several—or even dozens of times—greater than the frequency of meeting people through ordinary dating, the odds of that instant spark may actually be higher at a club. Women may warm up gradually, but even so, I think it makes a woman happy to see a man feeling fulfilled and carried away by his feelings.
This Valentine’s Day, my favorite woman gave me homemade chocolates again. In the past, my daughter would always make mine after preparing the ones for her friends—the leftovers, so to speak—but this year, she made mine first, specifically for her papa, and I got to eat it before anything else. (I suppose she’s simply reached an age where she and her friends don’t get as excited about it anymore…but it still made me happy.)
At my regular checkup, my blood pressure was 113/64. The person next to me was at 160, and everyone around seemed nervous and likely to have higher readings, so I was quietly pleased…
> “Having dinner and then going to a bar would make me completely satisfied.”
I love women who enjoy wine and other alcoholic drinks.
They tend to be interested in food as well, so you end up with more places you want to visit and restaurants you want to try.
Last year, while I was in Tokyo on a business trip, I made an offer to a Type B woman. Was she the owner of a bottomless stomach?
After eating a full-course meal, she went on to polish off steak, hamburgers, curry, and more at three or four additional places, one after another. Her appetite for sake and wine seemed bottomless too…
P.S.
What I wanted to convey by mentioning giving the allowance upfront was that I feel truly fortunate to have met someone I could feel that way about…
It isn’t about money or time, but about sharing emotions through intuition, chemistry, and compatibility. I think it’s perfectly fine for an allowance to exist beyond that—as something that helps lead to an even stronger bond…
Of course, everyone has their own version of this world.
マルケス
Male
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クラブ活動歴だけは30年以上と長いです。交際クラブの世界観は結構好きで楽しんでいます。60代後半になって大分以前とは活動内容が変わって来ていますが、まあ、楽しめる間は楽しもうと思っています。
Age: 60s
👨 Male
Universe member
Until about 10 years ago, the general rule of thumb for the allowance when things went all the way with a woman met through a dating club was about the same as the club’s introduction fee.
It was a relatively small club, but I heard this from several owners—or people in charge of operations—so I think it was fairly universal.
You’d start at around that level, and then, depending on how involved things became, the allowance might increase—or not. Sometimes the allowance stayed the same, while you gave her more through clothes, accessories, or even her apartment rent.
Also, if you wanted to have her exclusively, you might give her one and a half times the allowance for four meetings a month.
There were plenty of highly skilled women who would tell each man, “You’re the only one,” while effortlessly juggling four or five men and earning well into six figures.
Oh, and “transportation money” was something you gave when you only met and didn’t continue seeing each other afterward. It was more like an apology for turning the man down. If the woman turned him down, I suppose it was a way for the man to save face.
Even now, I still can’t quite get used to giving transportation money at the start of the first meeting.
Still, considering that quite a few awful male members don’t even pay transportation costs, I suppose it can’t be helped.