I recently joined and initially requested a standard arrangement through the club. I then tried Letter Date and Patro, and found them easier to use than standard offers, where you meet without knowing any of the terms beforehand. Since I joined the club, I do want to enjoy making standard offers, but I also worry that there isn’t enough information before meeting someone. At the same time, I’d hate for people to think I’m using Letter Date or Patro just to save money.
Could anyone share some tips on how to make better use of standard offers, or explain their advantages? (I’ve never used matching apps or anything like that before, so I’m a complete beginner when it comes to papa-katsu.) Thank you in advance.
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For men who are new to papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), I think the standard offer system is really helpful. Back when Letter Date and Patro didn’t exist, men would get used to things through standard offers, try the apps, get tired of them, and come back to Univ. But Letter Date and Patro are more like “quality apps,” so people inevitably gravitate toward them.
If apps are the ocean, then Letter Date and Patro are like fishing ponds, while standard offers are probably more like a fish market. It’s all the same fish, but are you enjoying the fishing, the cooking, or the taste? In that sense, would adult entertainment venues be restaurants where you just enjoy the taste?
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> I find letter dates and PATOLO easier to use than the standard offer system, where you meet without knowing any of the terms beforehand.
I think you should use whichever option feels easiest for you.
The main advantage of Universe seems to be that you have an extremely high chance of meeting the person you make an offer to. If you specify the day and time you’d like to meet, it will almost certainly happen.
Women judge what someone is like based on their messages. (With apps, that’s all they have to go on.) Unless you’re good at writing, I feel that apps, PATOLO, and letter dates are more likely to turn you down even if you want to meet.
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I prefer going in completely blind and playing it by ear, so I only make standard offers on Uni.
There’s no need for advance information anyway—some of it is bound to be lies.
What’s more annoying are the older guys who believe everything they hear and bring it up just to confirm it.
If I meet someone and the vibe is off, I just leave without even discussing the terms.
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I agree with what the person in their 70s who “never hesitates” wrote.
I’ve hardly ever felt that a regular offer had any real advantage. Maybe the only benefit is that you’re almost guaranteed to meet, even if you make the offer on the same day…
That said, I don’t negotiate the allowance for Letter Dates either. I use them often simply because arranging the date is smoother and you can meet sooner through direct communication. It also slightly eases the difficulty—and provides at least some reassurance—of having the woman suddenly meet someone without any information.
Lately, I’ve started to wonder whether they differentiate between B1 and B2/C types based on whether Letter Dates are available, since C types seem to be offered without Letter Dates so often.
I sometimes feel that for male members with high retention rates, a Letter Date is sufficient and there’s no real need to go out of their way to make a regular offer.
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Since women are looking for an allowance, I don’t think they really care which format you use:
- Regular club dates
- Letter Date
- Patro
From the women’s perspective, it makes no difference.
I imagine Universe doesn’t feel that offering through one platform or another is being stingy, since they earn commission either way. Letter Date and Patro match people automatically, without requiring the club to spend much time setting things up, so considering that labor costs are the highest expense these days, they probably offer better profit margins.
There are women registered with the club who aren’t on Patro, and women on Patro who aren’t registered with the club. So I’d recommend choosing the platform based on the type of woman you prefer.
If you’re able to use Letter Date, you’re probably considered “black,” so if you want more information, try asking the club staff lots of questions.
As you go along, I think you’ll gradually figure out what kind of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) lifestyle works for you, haha.
In any case, make lots of offers and enjoy yourself.
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If Letter Date were discontinued, I’d leave Universe Club. That’s how useful it is to me.
Thank you so much, “Unwavering 70s.”
As you mentioned, the advantage of Letter Date is that you can confirm the terms in advance. If you find through your messages that the terms don’t match, you simply don’t have to go to the first meeting. It’s lucky that you can avoid wasting your time and transportation costs.
I can’t really think of many ways to enjoy the usual matching process.
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It seems that women generally don’t appreciate being asked a lot of questions before receiving their allowance through Letter Date or Patro.
Since I can communicate directly with women and arrange a date, I make use of Letter Date.
As Nanodayo in His 70s also says, I think the best way to use it is to keep sending offers.
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I don’t see any problem with Letter Date or Patro.
If you feel like you’re saving money, then using them frequently ends up costing about the same anyway.
I do agree that there doesn’t seem to be much information, but since things change day by day and people may offer different terms depending on who they’re dealing with, it’s difficult to find information you can truly rely on.
(Some profiles say they’re new to papa-katsu, but after being registered for even a month, they may quickly become quite experienced.)
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Personally, I don’t feel comfortable discussing the terms until I’ve met someone and had a casual date first.
(Maybe because I mainly use B2 and B1.)
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I even became a Black member, but I never really saw any benefit to the regular offers. That’s why I came up with letter dating, lol.
As for the “best way to use it,” wouldn’t it be better to just send out as many offers as possible instead of overthinking it? Especially if letter dating and patro are already getting you results. Let go of that unnecessary pride.
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