I’m a male member living in the Kinki region. I believe the allowance varies depending on the woman, the papa’s financial means, and other factors. Since income levels and other conditions differ by region, I also assume that the going rate varies from one area to another.

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Recently, I discussed allowances with a female member. Her argument was as follows: 1. Looking at the “Anonymous Papa-Katsu Q&A Box,” there are many posts mentioning allowances of ¥90,000 or ¥100,000 per meeting. 2. The “Helpful Activity Column: How to Become a Man Women Want to See Again” lists the average allowance as ¥100,000. 3. Men cannot join the club unless they have a high income. 4. She also confirmed with the friend who introduced her to the club that ¥100,000 per meeting—usually for about two hours—is the average going rate. I replied, “Those figures are probably based on Tokyo, where the headquarters of many major listed companies are concentrated and where there are many ultra-wealthy people, including business owners, executives, IT company presidents, foreign-affiliated company employees, and real-estate investors. I don’t think those figures apply to other regions. If you want a high allowance, you should go to Tokyo for work.” I also asked a senior male member for his advice. He said, “Tokyo has many ultra-wealthy people, and I imagine there are men who will pay ¥100,000 or even ¥200,000 per meeting. However, naturally, the going rate in Tokyo differs from that in other regions.” There have been women in the Kinki area who insisted that ¥100,000 per meeting was the average as well, but lately, I feel as though the figure of ¥100,000 has taken on a life of its own. I would appreciate hearing everyone’s thoughts on how allowance rates differ by region.

Answer 1

I live in the Kinki region. The word “going rate” is a difficult one, isn’t it? Especially since it often sounds like a reason, but really isn’t one. People tend to make broad claims about “what’s normal in society” or “the standard in the community,” but it simply means the amount that person considers reasonable. They’re only saying it because they personally think ¥100,000 is fair. In my case, dinner is a fixed ¥10,000. If things continue beyond that, I’d say ¥30,000–¥50,000. Once the total exceeds ¥50,000 including dinner, I may convince myself it’s acceptable at first, but it never lasts long. That’s my going rate. I don’t really know what other people consider the going rate, and even within the Kinki region, I’m sure it varies from person to person, both among men and women.

Answer 2

You may be better off not arguing back too much and simply saying, “I’m sorry, but I can’t do those terms.” If you haggle too much, they may cut corners, and then it won’t be enjoyable. As for me, with the people I’ve continued seeing, I get 10 per pay-per-meeting arrangement.

Answer 3

10 for two hours? Well, allowances are something you negotiate freely between the two of you. Gold C only offers—or can only offer—10, so they confirm the allowance in advance on Pato anyway. If it’s 10, the conversation ends immediately. I don’t think 10 is being thrown around as some kind of standard at all. That’s just your impression and that woman’s impression, right? (In Hiroyuki’s style.) A papa’s overall appeal? If he’s old or creepy, he probably has to offer a bigger allowance to have an adult relationship. There are also plenty of women who want to date without needing that much allowance. One of Fuu’s monthly arrangement partners is nicknamed “Choroman-chan” (that’s what she calls herself). She came over from a dating app as a Pato 0-yen woman, so she’s an incredibly good deal in terms of allowance. That’s generally how it works, so I really don’t think 10 has somehow become the going rate. Sure, there are women who get 10, or hundreds of thousands of yen a month. But I don’t think there are that many of them. That’s just Fuu’s impression, though. No evidence whatsoever, lol.

Answer 4

I’ve said many times before that there’s no fixed market rate. Take a painting, for example. If the seller wants ¥100,000 for it, you can tell them that’s just the Tokyo market rate and it should be cheaper elsewhere—but if they won’t sell it for less than ¥100,000, then you simply can’t buy it. So there’s no point getting red-faced and insisting that the market rate is different. Instead of going on about how much the going rate should be, just be honest with yourself: it was either beyond your budget, or your values didn’t align. Then quietly walk away. You’re free to look for someone at whatever price you want, but there has to be another person involved. Realize that forcing your own opinions on others isn’t a good look. And if I may be even more blunt, this isn’t a dating app, so you shouldn’t expect people to be satisfied with low amounts. If you’re looking for someone inexpensive, there are plenty of them on dating apps. I recommend looking there. Understand that a dating club isn’t cheap. That’s where adults are. If you offer a young man the same allowance, you’ll be the one who loses out. Think about it carefully.

Answer 5

I’m a fullerene who’s active in multiple areas! First off, regarding your question, I definitely think there are regional differences. By the way, are there any women who would be okay with an allowance of 100,000 yen per meeting? (This also includes cases where you choose not to make offers to women who would accept 100,000 yen per meeting.) If there are, then I don’t think the questioner’s impression is all that unreasonable. I feel there are two types of women who would feel uncomfortable when told, “The average is 100,000 yen.” The first type says it as a negotiation tactic. You can usually tell from their eyes that they’re trying their luck. Cute, though. The other type genuinely believes it. This type tends to be bad at metacognition and can’t properly read between the lines. They simply fail to notice the intent behind the information being provided. It has nothing to do with whether they’re academically smart or not. In fact, I feel like it’s more common among people who are overly book-smart. This Q&A box isn’t a textbook, after all. When you run into this type, be careful—they may later come back with something totally unreasonable, like, “Things were different back then, so you need to compensate me extra.” lol Not that it matters, but posts mentioning 90,000 yen per meeting, as opposed to 100,000 yen, seem pretty rare. lol

Answer 6

Since this is a dating club, it really depends on whether you want to enjoy dating and receive an allowance, or whether you’re simply looking to get paid through the club… It comes down to your purpose and mindset. For men, I suppose it depends on whether you want to enjoy the relationship, have an adult relationship (intimate), or use the allowance to make her submit to you… Last week, I hit it off with a woman from Tokyo when we met for the first time, and things progressed to a hotel the next day. We never discussed an allowance, and I gave her the usual ¥50,000 when we parted. I’m meeting her in Tokyo again next week, so we’ve been talking about where to go and how we can enjoy spending time together. For both men and women, the key point is… For some, it’s about who they’re with. For others, it’s about the amount of the allowance. I think the criteria can vary completely. > Differences in the going rate for allowances If you look at it that way, the amount may range from ¥30,000 to ¥400,000 depending on the woman. But I think it can also range in the opposite direction—from ¥400,000 to ¥30,000—depending on the man. So it seems it may ultimately depend on you, the person asking the question.

Answer 7

I’m in Tokyo, and I’ve never heard of an average pay-per-meeting allowance of 10. All of my monthly arrangements are in the single digits, even for four to five hours. I honestly don’t think it makes much sense to focus only on the allowance amount. If you’re curious about regional differences, I think you’d be better off comparing the price lists at lounges or adult entertainment establishments.

Answer 8

It’s because women like that exist that a girl in her early twenties who’s happy with 50,000 yen per meeting and willing to do anything seems so endearing. They’re basically fertilizer. Just think of it as, “Looks like I got some good fertilizer today.”

Answer 9

Allowance rates naturally vary by region, but to put it another way—borrowing a line from Crocodile in One Piece—“Losers have no right to talk about justice. That’s just the kind of sea this is.” All a loser is allowed to do is yap from the sidelines and throw rocks at the strong from a distance. I’ve spent my whole life being fixated on by mediocre men, and it’s still happening now. It’s utterly pathetic. The fact that they don’t even realize they’re being obsessive makes them even more impossible to deal with. You should work your tail off and make plenty of money. That’s the only way you’ll have any standing to talk about justice.

Answer 10

As I always say, I basically go along with what the woman wants. Of course, if the cost-performance is just too poor—that is, her expectations are too high for the quality—we usually only have dinner on the first meeting anyway, so I’ll say, “Let’s keep it to that from next time onward,” part ways, and delete her LINE contact. Even if things progress to an adult relationship (intimate) on the first meeting, I won’t meet her again if, overall, I feel the allowance wasn’t worth it. I’m older, so I suppose I’m willing to pay a little more, but I’d say the arrangement with the highest chance of feeling like the best value is probably pay-per-meeting at 70,000 yen. Once it reaches 80,000, I start judging a little more strictly. Before COVID, my baseline was 50,000 yen. But if I really liked someone and got deeply involved, the exact pay-per-meeting amount would stop mattering. Every so often, I’d suddenly stop and do the math, only to realize the equivalent per-meeting cost had become frighteningly high. I think that was because I was completely absorbed in my work at the time, with endorphins and dopamine constantly flowing. So I don’t think there’s really a fixed going rate. If a woman says 100,000 yen, I’d meet her once, and if I was satisfied, I’d simply continue seeing her. If anything, I’d love to meet a woman who could make me feel completely satisfied at 100,000 yen.

Answer 11

I’m active in both Tokyo and regional areas. I’ve met over 100 women through Universe and Patro, but neither I nor anyone I’ve met has ever mentioned a ¥100,000 pay-per-meeting allowance. Of course, I also avoid women who seem likely to expect terms like that. I think it depends more on the woman’s values than on the area. Whether in Tokyo or elsewhere, someone receiving a lot of offers can probably set relatively stronger terms, while someone receiving fewer offers may be more willing to compromise. Hope this helps.

Answer 12

Most of the women I see are also from the Kanto region. Some do ask for ¥100,000, but I don’t think they’re the majority. If anything, I’d say they’re in the minority. > ③ Male members of the club must have a high income to join. That’s clearly incorrect. As you know, there’s no income screening. > ④ I also checked with the friend who introduced me to the club, In my personal experience, scouts and others tend to say things like this to motivate women.

Answer 13

Looking through the anonymous Q&A, I’ve noticed that allowances of 90,000–100,000 yen per pay-per-meeting arrangement seem to be common now. I guess that’s just the way things are these days. Maybe I’m simply out of touch since I only check in and answer questions occasionally. I still sometimes make offers to new women and generally arrange pay-per-meeting dates for 50,000 yen. Occasionally, someone has asked for a higher allowance, and I’ve agreed, having an adult relationship (intimate) once or twice. However, it never really led to anything ongoing.

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