I’m a male member who joined six months ago, and I’d appreciate some advice about dating Type B women.

I usually only make offers to C-type women, but I’ve offered to B-type women twice in the past, and neither went any further. B-type women tend to either: - Become intimate if they meet someone they really like—meaning someone who offers a high allowance; or - Even as C-types, hint at an adult relationship, keep you coming back for meals, and collect only the dinner allowance. So if that’s the case, there are probably even more dinner-only girls among the B-types. I don’t think making things work with a B-type is possible unless you have plenty of money and time—you need the financial means to offer a generous allowance, be willing to go along with dinner-only girls, and have enough money to win them over. With the two B-types I offered to, when I later asked about an adult relationship, they both said, “Let’s get a little closer first” or “Let’s get to know each other a little better.” We had already talked for two full hours at the first meeting, so there was nothing left to say or learn, lol. I can’t stand being strung along, so I didn’t invite them again and made offers to other C-types instead. The result: “Yeah, B-types just aren’t for me after all.” ^⁠_⁠^

I think that, for women, deciding whether or not to have sex with a papa is similar to deciding whether they can eat something exotic or unusual. When you were in your twenties, did you ever think you could have sex with a woman you’d just met who was your parents’ age? What about someone your grandparents’ age? Some people may feel no resistance at all. Others may feel hesitant but take the plunge and find they can do it, while some may continue to hesitate. It’s a matter of individual sensibilities, so it’s not something that can be determined by age alone. There may be things someone simply cannot accept on a visceral level, for reasons unrelated to age. Someone may feel strong resistance but still decide to try because the allowance being offered is appealing. I’ve also heard of women who initially felt resistant, but tried being intimate with a man they thought they could manage, and afterward found they could do it with other men as well. On the other hand, even with someone they had been intimate with several times because he paid a generous allowance, they might start to notice something about him that bothers them and gradually lose interest. People may be classified as B1 or B2, but each of them is still an individual with their own sensibilities. What someone considers “exotic,” and whether they can eat it, varies from person to person. For example, A may not be able to eat frog legs, while B has no problem with them. Conversely, A may eat crocodile meat, while B can’t stomach it. There may even be a C who dislikes all of it but happily enjoys anything if someone else is treating them. Whether someone feels they can do it depends on their own sensibilities, the other person, the allowance, and the circumstances at the time. Being B1, B2, or C doesn’t determine everything about a person. I think those labels are merely choices made in response to a question from a third party, such as, “How many times do you think I need to meet someone before deciding whether to take the plunge?” The important thing is not to make assumptions based on someone’s label, but to engage with that individual as they are. Asking, “What should I do because she’s B1, B2, C, or D?” is no different from asking what you should do based on someone’s blood type. In recent years, my own needs have been fulfilled, so I’ve only actively made offers to women from before Type B was split into B1 and B2. As a result, most of my experience has been offering to Type B women, but I’ve also had quite a few experiences where, at the woman’s suggestion, we went to a hotel on the day of the scheduled meeting. That’s about all those dating types amount to.

You’re probably better off not overthinking it. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn’t. That’s just the impermanence of all things.

In your case, I think the correct answer is: > If you just want to get intimate quickly without overthinking things, go with a C or D type. The better the two of you match, the better. If the man is a B1 or B2 type, offering him that type of arrangement shouldn’t cause any problems. Since he’s making the offer because he likes her, she can simply move on to an adult relationship (intimate) once she also likes him and feels ready. If they hit it off and connect, they just need to take the next step naturally. If you can’t wait for that, then you’re probably closer to a C type. You feel frustrated because you aren’t a B type. If you’re a B type, the right mindset is: > Let the woman be the one to suggest an adult relationship (intimate). There’s no need for the man to bring it up. In fact, a woman who dislikes men bringing it up is what a true B type should be like. Mac, That’s true: > I’ve decided to put as much energy as possible into writing answers. That makes sense too—and may actually be how it should be… It’s just that the communication was so good…

“Change your offers to women who are C-type or above. B-type is difficult for beginners, so think of it as being for more experienced men.” I actually think that advice is basically right, but I don’t think the questioner fully understands what it means. It doesn’t mean you should offer only to C-types forever. For example, start with a D-type woman, talk and have dinner with her, and then go to a hotel. Next, offer to a C-type woman, talk and have dinner with her, and then go to a hotel. Doing this gives you more opportunities to talk with women, and lets you get a feel for the steps leading up to going to a hotel. I think the point is that this experience is important. In other words, if things aren’t working with B-types, it probably means that the content of your conversations or the way you invite them isn’t resonating with women, so they aren’t agreeing to proceed with you. By starting with D-types and then moving on to C-types, you may gradually develop a sense of what you’re doing wrong. If you think C-types are no good because anyone can get them to agree, you’re mistaken. C-types turn people down too. By making offers to C-types, you can start to understand what you’re doing wrong. Even if you aren’t rejected, what matters is whether she’ll meet you a second time, and then a third time. If she won’t meet you after the fourth time, there’s a good chance she’s been putting up with something, so you should assume there may be an issue with you. And even if you do manage to meet someone four or more times, it’s only natural that C-types and B-types will respond differently. The question is whether you can adapt your approach accordingly. Ultimately, it also comes down to whether that style suits you. That’s why I think it’s best to go through the following steps before moving on to B-types: D → agreement C → agreement

There have been plenty of times when things didn’t progress—not only with B1 and B2, but even with C-type arrangements. Sometimes I’m simply not feeling it, but most of the time, it’s because I wasn’t good enough myself, including when it came to the allowance. With that in mind: 1. Of course. When things do progress, it’s usually from the second meeting onward. 2. Of course. The earliest is the second meeting, but in most cases, things progress from the third meeting onward. However, both patterns only apply when she agrees to my terms at the first meeting. 3. Since there’s a first meeting, I suggest stating the allowance then. If she seems hesitant, it’s definitely not going to work no matter how many times you meet, so it’s best to end things right there and move on to the next offer. As you know, there are tons of women out there, so let’s keep going! Hope this helps.

I already have several monthly arrangements, so I’m not actively trying to add more. That’s why I sometimes intentionally don’t move things forward. If she’s a B2: I move on to the next step about half the time. (B2 is where I mainly focus.) If she’s a B1: I’ve never moved on to the next step. (I make offers to B1s assuming they’re A-type, and I’ve only made offers to two of them anyway.) If you make an offer to a popular woman or someone who already has a generous (well-paying) papa, the chances of moving on to the next step are lower. I can’t give advice without knowing what kind of woman you made the offer to and what terms (allowance and date details) you proposed, rather than just her dating type. If the terms are exceptionally good, even an A-type might move on to the next step right away. On the other hand, even a D-type won’t move forward if the terms are poor.

What 負け男さん writes seems to be pretty much true. If anything, even a certain percentage of A-type women probably have adult relationships (intimate). That said, I feel that if you follow his approach, your intimacy rate with C- and D-type women may actually go down. ① The man should never be the one to suggest an adult relationship. Wait until the woman shows interest. ② Don’t walk side by side; in a car, don’t let her sit in the passenger seat—have her sit in the back. ③ Perfume and a pocket square are essential items. That’s roughly what I remember, though the details may be a little different. Refer to the column that will probably be published eventually. 紙ひこうきさん will probably answer later too, but he casually makes offers even to A- and B1-types. In his case, though, what’s remarkable isn’t just his intimacy rate but his incredible continuation rate. He seems to choose mostly from premium women in the Black or Platinum categories, and he’s the type who dates beautiful women almost like female friends. These two are the masters of winning over the A- and B1-types, as far as I know. What they have in common is that they aren’t pursuing intimacy as their goal. 負け男さん is intoxicated by playing the part of a sophisticated man, while 紙ひこうきさん is physically male but emotionally more feminine—and since he’s attracted to women, he simply can’t be imitated. So while neither of their answers seems to be a lie, I think they can be useful as reference but aren’t something you can actually copy. If you just want to get intimate quickly without overthinking it, stick with C or D. Even then, apparently some men still get turned down. Once women enter this kind of dating arrangement, they’re hardly innocent or proper anymore. It doesn’t make that much difference. I’ve been a member for about ten years, and my personal impression is that it’s 100% with C, around 50% with B2, and about 10% with B1. If it doesn’t look like anything will happen, I give up quickly and move on. > 負け男さん My interpretation is that 負け男さん was banned because the respondent community board became so lively thanks to him that everyone’s energy was drained, and people started neglecting their original job of writing answers—at least I know I did. So I’ve decided to keep the community as a relaxed place to unwind and socialize, while directing as much of my free time and energy as possible toward writing answers. If we interact too much with the respondents here in the same spirit as the 負け男さん community, this place could ban us too, so be careful lol. > 紙ひこうきさん Exactly. In short, unless the man himself is a “B-type,” it’s difficult to win over B-types. My understanding is that interactions like this between respondents aren’t forbidden, but anything that can’t—or shouldn’t—be written here should be discussed in the community instead.

① I originally mainly made offers to B-type women (I had been a member since before B1 and B2 were separated), and things naturally progressed from there. Of course, there were also some women who seemed to have signed up out of curiosity or a desire to see what it was like, so it wasn’t 100% consistent… And yes, I did make offers to C-type women as well, but I asked to keep the first meeting to dinner only (no intimacy), and no one turned me down at that stage. If anything, I got the impression that they felt more comfortable with that arrangement. ②③ With B1-type women, there were also some who seemed more like A-type, I suppose… But even so, I look back on those encounters fondly and was glad to have met them. About six months ago, I made an offer to a woman from the Black Class. We had such an enjoyable time talking that, even on our second dinner date, it never really felt appropriate to bring up the allowance or an adult relationship (intimate). Since she was B2, I started wondering what to do about a third date. But I thought, “I’m fine with things staying like this,” so I checked her profile just in case and found that she was actually B1 and preferred meeting three or four times before moving on to the next stage. I approached her on the third date, and it went well. On the fourth date, we went to a room. She said she liked the fact that I wasn’t rushing things at all. Since we only meet once a month, it took some time, but we’ve settled into a stable relationship now, haha. I believe your appeal is something you’ll continue to develop from here. One approach is to work hard on making your allowance more attractive; another is to refine the atmosphere and behavior that make women feel at ease. People often tell me that I’m enjoyable to talk to and make them lose track of time, or that I’m very gentlemanly and make them feel comfortable—but when it comes to the allowance, they tend to gloss over that part, haha. Whether you’re a beginner or experienced, and whether you’re B-type or C-type, I think the important things are the same. I hope you have some wonderful encounters!

① Are you moving on to the next step with women who are Type B2? Answer: With more than 90% of them, it develops into an adult relationship (intimate). ② What about Type B1? Answer: Likewise, more than 90% progress to an adult relationship. ③ I’d appreciate any advice on things to keep in mind when moving on to the next step with a Type B woman. Answer: Universe Club’s editing process is never going to end. A column titled: “How a Papa-Katsu Papa Should Conduct Himself—Becoming the Kind of Man Women Want to See Again” should finally be published sometime soon, so please read it when it comes out. It contains all the answers. If you put everything in the column into practice, I think you’ll be able to develop an adult relationship with many Type B women. Don’t just adopt parts of it—try putting all of it into practice. I guarantee that it will greatly increase your chances of developing an adult relationship. P.S. Mac seems to be doing well, haha. Today I’m going on my second dinner date with a woman who’s misrepresenting her dating type—she’s supposedly B1 but is almost entirely Type A. I’m going to play the gentleman, get lost in my own charm, and have her suggest an adult date next time♡ I feel like it might work out, since our messages have been going pretty well. I’m also up against another B1 girl who seems like nothing but an A. This one’s a tough opponent, so it’s fun. It looks like I won’t win unless I go beyond being a gentleman, but I’ll give it a shot. Incidentally, it isn’t Type D women who my approach doesn’t work on—it’s Type K, a type I just made up. When I’m dealing with PJ girls who want to fall in love with their papa, they end up feeling lonely. P.P.S. Of course, I know exactly why I was banned. I’m not that oblivious. You may not remember the riddle I posed before, but the reason is the same. A serious answer would be boring, so let’s say this is the correct one: “You’ve been lowering the allowances for everyone except your aces and queens lately, so stop wasting time here, go work, and earn enough to raise the allowance to at least 100,000 yen.”