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I’m the one who asked why men I meet for the first time often ask, “How many guys have there been before me?” and “What kind of men have you dated?”

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Thank you so much for all the responses! The opinions from both men and women were very helpful. So, I have a follow-up question. I’ve actually met more than a dozen men. The men tell me, “The club also introduced you as a veteran.” I’m worried because if I tell them the actual number when they ask, they’ll be put off, but if I give a lower number, they’ll think I’m inexperienced and offer me a lower allowance… Is it really common to offer less allowance to women who aren’t experienced? Or is it just the men I’ve met so far…?
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I’m Saito, a column writer ♪ I feel like either option would work just fine. Both may have their pros and cons, but wouldn’t forcing yourself to put on an act be more stressful?
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Maezawa from the Corporate Planning Office here as well. > Is it generally the case that men offer less allowance to women who aren’t experienced? I’ve never heard of that happening, so I think there are very few men who do that. > Or is it just the men I’ve met so far…? I suspect your desired amount may simply be on the high side. (I’m not blaming you, and I think you should continue discussing an amount you’re comfortable with. It’s only natural for an attractive woman to name an allowance she feels satisfied with.) When a woman says, “The men I’ve met before gave me 100,000 yen,” the man will probably think, “Oh, I see,” and adjust to her expectations. But when a woman who has barely met any men says, “I want 100,000 yen,” it can turn into a lecture along the lines of, “Come on, it’s hard to earn 100,000 yen in this world,” or you can’t tell whether he’s preaching or simply has a small budget. (laughs) (And it seems they try to turn it into a story where they’re right and you’re wrong.) That might be what’s happening. Men have more life experience, and in the business world, they’re constantly negotiating. So, while they may not change the allowance based on whether a woman is experienced or not, women who have been on more dates are probably better at negotiating their allowance. That means even if you’ve only met a few men, pretending that you’ve met many might actually give you an advantage when negotiating.
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I’m Rura, a UC male member and a member of the new salon. I’ve been told, “This is her first date,” but I’ve never been told anything like, “She’s a woman who’s been on lots of dates,” regarding someone who has gone on two or more dates. In my case, the allowance doesn’t change whether she’s on her first date or is a veteran (so to speak). I try not to think about how many men she’s met in the past or how many she’s still seeing. I don’t ask her, either. If things progress smoothly and we both agree that we want to narrow things down and enter into a monthly arrangement, I might ask a little about it. But not on the first date.
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