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Aug 13, 2022 20:11
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I read your blog post dated August 13. I understand that the rule changes are unavoidable, but why is simply posting them on the blog considered sufficient?
Whenever the rules change, Mr. Kida or someone else posts an update on the blog, but that’s where it ends, isn’t it?
When the organizational changes went back and forth last year, I recall that only the initial change was posted on the blog, with no announcements about the subsequent changes. As a result, there were discrepancies between what the staff told us and what had actually changed.
My question is: Are these details written in the terms and conditions? Where can we find the rulebook?
Thank you.
5 answers
🏅 パパ活歴8年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
A blog post is clear enough for me.
If someone says, “We changed Article X, Paragraph Y of the terms,” I can’t be bothered to go look it up.
Besides, if you’re a member, wouldn’t it be better to email the club directly with your requests instead of posting anonymously?
The blog post only clarified what was already written anyway.
If you’re a considerate man who wants women to like you, that’s just something you’d normally do, right? If you keep someone tied up for ages with endless nitpicking, they’ll dislike you.
As for the organization, the club is free to run things as it sees fit. I think it’s the kind of thing you can simply say, “Oh, it changed? I see,” and leave it at that.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Originally, my first dates with Type A and Type B women lasted two hours.
I’ve only gone to a second venue twice, and I gave them some extra money each time.
While I’m at it, could you add a question to the women’s survey asking them to rate, on a scale of 1 to 10, how satisfied they were with the allowance proposed by the man?
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Is this about this blog post?
https://universe-club.jp/staffblog/86759/
First of all, the terms and conditions are here:
https://universe-club.jp/men/fullagreement/
As for the four-hour thing, it hasn’t been listed there for some time. As the article says, it’s only a guideline, and the blog post also states:
> Since this cannot be made into a rule, we hope both parties will enjoy their dates by meeting each other halfway and showing consideration.
So it clearly says that this isn’t a rule.
I take this to mean that the rules haven’t changed—the explanation of the guidelines has simply become more detailed.
追加 after reading Kamihikoki’s answer:
Come on, let’s read the rules, haha.
追加 2 after reading Kamihikoki’s answer:
I don’t think free-form dating necessarily means an adult relationship (intimate).
Going to an outlet mall, a bar, or karaoke would also count as free-form dating here, in my opinion.
I don’t see the value in giving an allowance for that, so when I’m with a Type B woman, I end things after leaving the restaurant and wait to see if she invites me on another date.
追加 3 after reading Kamihikoki’s answer:
> If that’s the case, whether it’s an adult relationship (intimate) or not, shouldn’t there be something like the four hours of free-form dating…?
I believe the explanation addressing that is:
> Dating Types A and B are registrations for which there is no possibility of developing into free-form dating on the first day. We hope you will understand this.
Even the explanation for Dating Type C says, “If both parties hit it off on the first day, the relationship may develop further.” It says “relationship,” not “adult relationship (intimate).”
Universe Club is not arranging adult relationships (intimate), so perhaps that’s why sex, drinks, karaoke, and shopping are all treated equally as “free-form dating.”
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Huh?
I was still blocked by the cache, so it hadn’t even appeared when I checked it myself. How did you manage to see it?
Anyway, there are countless ways posted online to make updates appear immediately even when caching is enabled, so it’s a mystery why they don’t do that.
I believe I mentioned this before, but I don’t accept questions directed at me personally; I hide them instead. I happened to be in the mood this time, so I’ll let it slide.
And for this question, perhaps I should leave you with these words:
Your sense of entitlement… the clearest example is the question you’ve all been shouting about just now.
You think that if you ask a question, you’re entitled to an answer…? Why would you think that…?
You idiots…! That’s a ridiculous misunderstanding…!
When all is said and done, the world never answers anything truly important.
It’s not just companies or government agencies. Individuals are the same. Adults don’t answer questions. That’s the basic rule. It’s because you’ve got that completely wrong that you’ve withered away and ended up on a ship like this.
Of course, there are some adults who do answer questions. But they only do so because the answer benefits them.
To trust something like that means you’re being played. Why can’t you see that…?
Sure, I don’t mind answering your questions. It’s easy enough.
But if I told you something, what would you do about whether it was true or not…?
Would you say you just want to hear it, regardless of whether it’s true?
You people, already aboard this ship, have no way to verify anything for yourselves. In the end, your only option is to blindly believe whatever you’re told…
And that’s nothing more than a temporary comfort.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m not really sure what to make of it, but…
When it comes to relationships between men and women, things rarely go as planned, and there’s plenty of absurdity.
As men, let’s face the challenges with some composure, no matter how rough the road or unfavorable the conditions may be.
As for blogs and rules, maybe you don’t have to go out of your way to read them all, right??
P.S.
Kazu, I read it.
The arrangement ending after just four hours on the first meeting?? It’s disappointing for me, since I’d like people to leave at least half a day open. But in this age of speed, I suppose it’s unavoidable if leaving things up to the man can become a source of trouble…
By the way, I was shocked by how much this part of the staff interview overlapped with my own experience…
> Other than having a meal or coffee, where else do you go on dates after meeting in the lobby?
> Probably an outlet mall. We go shopping there.
> The food court is great too, so it’s fun. I can buy her clothes and bags as well.
> Karaoke could be good too. I’d like to try that.
> Oh, right—I’ve been to a night pool before.
> I don’t know who the DJ was, but someone called DJ So-and-so was there and everyone was really getting into it.
> We reserved a covered booth with all-you-can-drink service, and it cost a fair amount—maybe 10,000 yen per person.
> It had the kind of atmosphere where you wondered whether you were going to a concert or a club, so I suppose the price was reasonable.
> There were plenty of Instagram-worthy spots too.
> I had a great time, and at night you don’t have to worry as much about other people’s eyes, so I thought it was nice.
I couldn’t help thinking, “Wait, is he talking about me…?”
We go to an outlet mall, have lunch, walk around, go to a hotel on the way home, have dinner, go karaoke, go out for drinks, stop by a bar, drive her home, go inside her place…
Even without the hotel, eight or nine hours can pass in the blink of an eye, right?? Especially when it’s your first time meeting someone—you never run out of things to talk about. Maybe as the time flies by, you naturally become closer…
I found myself thinking, “So those kinds of dates aren’t possible anymore…”
Because in all that time—half a day, even—we wouldn’t mention the allowance at all…
There was one other thing I found puzzling.
The phrase “free dating” could also be read as referring to an adult relationship (intimate). Was I the only one who felt that was a little problematic?
It could be interpreted as, “If you’re not going to engage in compensated sex, you can leave after two hours.”
That sounds a little too much like arranging things on their behalf. Is this really okay??
> Kazu,
Exactly. “Free dating” includes relationships that don’t involve an adult relationship (intimate) too, right? Exactly.
In that case, whether it involves an adult relationship or not, I would think the four hours up to the point of free dating should still apply…
It feels problematic for the club to be involved at that point. That seems like an area where the club should neither touch nor be involved…
> Kazu,
So it’s two hours, not four…
Because it’s a first meeting arranged through the club, there’s usually that sense of freshness and surprise in deciding, “Where should we go?” or “What do you feel like eating?”—going to an outlet mall, taking a drive, and so on. But with a strict two-hour limit, you might hesitate to do those things…
When the date takes an unexpected turn and the woman suddenly says, “What? It’s already this late? Time flies!” and three or four hours have passed before you know it, I can’t help quietly pumping my fist inside. In that moment, hearing her say that makes all the effort—and the exhaustion of thinking, “It took this long because I worked hard to make it fun!”—completely disappear…