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Feb 13, 2022 21:29
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I’ve passed the interview and am waiting for my profile to be created. I watched the video explaining what happens after the interview and looked through the Q&A, but I still have a few questions. I’d appreciate it if you could answer them.
Regarding the first date:
My dating type is B.
I understand that I should leave four hours available and that I will definitely receive either an allowance for tea or ¥5,000–¥10,000 for transportation.
In that case, is it correct that I can receive it once the meal or tea (at the first venue) is over?
If I’m then invited out for drinks afterward, am I correct in understanding that I would receive an additional allowance?
Also, although I assume this doesn’t happen often, the meal or tea at the first venue would normally take about two hours. If we somehow ended up spending the full four hours there, is it correct that, under the rules, there would be no additional allowance owed?
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With Type B, the usual flow is to receive 5,000–10,000 yen for transportation around the beginning of the first date, then have a meal or tea. An adult relationship (intimate) generally starts from the second meeting onward, but if you’re comfortable with it, you can proceed on the first date as well. In that case, you would receive a separate allowance for the adult relationship.
Even if he invites you out for drinks that same day, an allowance generally won’t be provided. This isn’t a place to do business, so even if your first date includes a meal and going to a lounge, the transportation payment is still only 5,000–10,000 yen. Some people may say they received more, but I’ve never gotten anything beyond that, so don’t count on it.
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Depending on the man, you may receive the transportation money when you’re leaving. Since people can forget, make sure to ask clearly as you’re leaving, “Could I have the transportation money, please?”
The same applies to the allowance for an adult relationship. If you forget to collect it and try to ask for it at the next meeting, he may hand it over reluctantly, which can make things awkward.
Please look out for yourself.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
> So, in this case, is it correct that I should receive the allowance once the meal or tea at the first venue is over?
As Kazu also mentioned, under the rules, the ¥5,000–¥10,000 is paid upfront.
As an aside, a few years ago, people were told that payment would be made after the meal. As a result, some men started saying they didn’t want to hand anything over beforehand.
This eventually led to the rather confusing explanation that upfront payment is “a request.”
If you think about it normally, you can understand that “a request” is practically mandatory. It’s similar to how asking people to wear masks when entering establishments during the COVID-19 pandemic was essentially compulsory.
So, basically, payment is made upfront, and in many cases you’ll receive it either at the start of the meal or before it ends.
> If he invites me out for drinks afterward, is it correct to assume that I would receive a separate allowance?
I think you should generally assume that you’ll part ways after the first venue.
That’s because relatively few men are willing to pay an allowance for anything other than an adult relationship (intimate).
If you ask for a separate allowance, he may get angry, and there’s also a possibility that he won’t want to see you again.
So, as a general rule, plan to leave once the meal at the first venue is over.
The reason for saying that you need an allowance after that is to prepare yourself for situations where a man takes advantage of the fact that you’ve kept four hours open and says things like:
“Why are you leaving?”
“You’re supposed to stay for four hours, aren’t you?”
He may try to pressure you in that way, leaving you feeling uncomfortable.
In other words, even if you intend to leave after the first meal, you need to keep in mind the “common-sense” argument that anything after that is voluntary and therefore naturally calls for an allowance. This can help you break out of a situation where you feel unable to leave.
If you keep this in mind, then when the meal is over and you say, “Thank you for today,” and try to leave, you’ll be able to smile and say, “I’m going home today,” even if he invites you out for drinks afterward.
If he becomes persistent or says, “Why are you leaving when you were supposed to keep four hours open?” you can respond smoothly:
“Yes, I did keep the time open, but I’m a Type B, so please invite me again next time if you’d like to continue after the meal.”
If he still refuses to back down, you can conclude that he isn’t someone worth seeing again anyway. Since you have nothing to lose by not continuing with him, you can use this as a last resort:
“I understood that the arrangement was only through the meal. If you really want to continue, how much allowance would you offer?”
That’s probably the safest way to think about it.
Of course, if you genuinely want to get to know him better and would like to continue spending time with him after the meal, there’s nothing wrong with going out for drinks without an allowance.
If the first venue ends up dragging on, then technically it would count as continuing afterward, but I haven’t really heard of that happening often.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
Good evening.
What does “you must always receive ¥5,000–¥10,000 for tea or transportation” mean?
The terms state that the transportation money must be paid in advance. So, as I understand it, the rule is that it should be handed over before the first venue begins, not after the first venue is over.
Apparently, these terms were revised partway through, so some long-time members may not be aware of them.
If he then invites you out for drinks, it’s up to you to decide whether to work unpaid overtime—in other words, whether to accept an allowance.
The rule specifically states:
> On the day of the date, the member must pay the female member the transportation fee separately determined by our company (¥5,000 to ¥10,000) in advance.
There is no rule specifying anything about four hours or an additional allowance.
Here are the terms for male members:
https://universe-club.jp/men/fullagreement/
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Basically, I don’t think there’s any mistake.
That said, if he invites you out for drinks afterward, I honestly think it’s better not to ask for an additional allowance.
The only things we men are told are that the woman has set aside four hours, and that we shouldn’t invite a Type B woman into an adult relationship (intimate) on the first meeting.
Many men probably wouldn’t be comfortable with the idea that, if we spend four hours together, she should receive an allowance in addition to transportation expenses.
Personally, after learning that some women think this way, I now wrap things up after the two-hour meal when I meet a Type B woman.