When discussing the allowance for the second meeting onward, if the terms are written like this:
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Dinner: ¥○
Adult relationship: ¥○
then when the meeting goes from dinner to an adult relationship, is it generally understood that I would receive the amount for the adult relationship plus dinner, or only the amount for the adult relationship (with dinner considered included)?
Maezawa from Shacho-shitsu here.
> When things progress from dinner to an adult relationship (intimate), is it more common to receive the amount for both the adult relationship and dinner, or just the amount for the adult relationship, with dinner considered included?
I think more people consider the adult-relationship amount to cover the dinner as well when it goes from dinner to an adult relationship.
If anything, dinner is treated as an added bonus—something included because they think the woman will enjoy it. It also seems to convey that this is a normal relationship between two people, not just about intimacy.
Some people might prefer going to a hostess club or similar venue if all they want is intimacy, while others enjoy relationships through a dating club precisely because there’s more to them than that.
Of course, some women may prefer skipping dinner if the cost of the meal were added to their allowance, but when it comes to that…
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I’m Fuu, a column writer.
I’m assuming this is about communicating via LINE, either through an app or under Relationship Type B at a club.
From the man’s perspective, at a club, he probably considers dinner plus an adult relationship (intimate) to be included in the allowance for the adult relationship.
With an app, the adult relationship (intimate) may sometimes mean going straight to a room, so the allowance might be for the room alone.
Since it should be easy enough to ask over LINE, why not just ask?
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I’m in Seattle.
If he doesn’t specify otherwise, I assume the amount includes transportation and the meal.
For my first meeting, I made it clear that everything was included before negotiating. If you want more, you have to bring it up when negotiating the first meeting.
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I’m Dai, a male member.
Usually, if we’re going to have an adult relationship from the second meeting onward, I simply ask, “Would ¥〇〇 work for you?”
I also consider it standard to give ¥〇〇 even when the meeting is dinner followed by an adult relationship.
If she says she wants a separate allowance for dinner as well, I either say, “Then let’s skip dinner,” or tell her we should part ways.
When I tell them that dinner only would be ¥△△, the women often say they’d prefer to have an adult relationship every time.
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I’m Taro, a male member.
So there are male members who present their terms in a menu-like format.
The other person is probably looking for a transactional relationship, so if you have questions, just ask normally. It’s basically like asking, “Does the set meal come with miso soup?” That said, early on in a relationship, it’s easy for things to turn into a game of reading between the lines. So for a straightforward question, I think it’s best to preface it with something like, “I just want to make sure I understand correctly, so…”
For what it’s worth, in my case, the amount I offer for an adult relationship includes dinner as well.
I once received a LINE message like that from a woman, and it was a real turnoff. Since I’d already gotten involved, I saw it through to the end, but honestly, I would have had a much better time at Tobita Shinchi. Strange transactional arrangements with amateurs may be the worst of all. I imagine there are similar situations when the genders are reversed.
It depends on what you’re looking for, but having a calm understanding of the situation is important, so please take this as an unsolicited aside from someone speaking out of concern.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
When you say “listed,” do you mean that it was discussed in your messages?
In any case, generally speaking, meals are usually included in an adult relationship (intimate). In other words, even if the arrangement is dinner followed by an adult relationship, I believe the allowance would be for the adult relationship only.
That said, context takes priority. The man may not necessarily have sent it with that intention, so ultimately, I recommend confirming with him directly.
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