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・How can I get a papa to agree to a monthly arrangement?

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・What kind of female member do men want to have a monthly arrangement with? ・Once you have a monthly arrangement, does that reduce the risk of being dropped? ・What is the minimum amount you should accept for a monthly arrangement? I think my minimum would be ¥500,000 or more, since that was the lowest amount I’ve received in the past. Are there really people at Universe Club with that kind of financial means? Is Salon a better option for getting a high allowance? ・My papa-katsu friends say that men at Salon are wealthy, but since that alone is enough to get them admitted, they may have difficult personalities. Is that true?
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This is THESALON Haneda. > My papa-katsu friends say that men at SALON are wealthy, but since that alone is enough to join, many of them have difficult personalities. Is that true? All male SALON members are required to provide documentation proving an annual income of at least ¥40 million, which we verify. Membership is granted only after our staff meet with each prospective member and have a thorough conversation with him. We can proudly say that our members are all kind and wonderful men. They are the kind of men who seem to have not only financial freedom, but also the emotional room that comes with it.
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I’m Aya, a female member. The men I met through Universe Club never became monthly arrangements—though that may have just been a coincidence. Things did work out that way with men I met through other clubs. One papa (a male supporter) promised to send me a monthly allowance starting after our second meeting. With another man, I think it was less than a year after we met when our relationship gradually deepened, and he began giving me a fixed amount every month. With the last one, after we’d known each other for about a year, we couldn’t meet because of COVID. His allowance changed from being handed to me in person to being transferred to my bank account, and it naturally became a monthly arrangement. I was happy that my papa didn’t lose interest in me even while we couldn’t meet. Once it becomes a monthly arrangement, the risk of being cut off does seem to decrease. But the other person’s expectations may increase accordingly, so it can have its difficult sides too. The amount of money is for the papa to decide, not me, so I never asked for anything myself. I think it’s best to do your best for every papa—to be his ideal woman while also giving him the impression that you’re somehow out of reach. I don’t know much about salons.
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I’m Flag Maker, a columnist. I never bring up monthly arrangements myself, nor do I want one. I only consider it when the woman says, “A monthly arrangement works for me.” I’ve built my reputation as a self-proclaimed “man who can’t be reduced to a transaction,” so the only monthly arrangements I’ve experienced have been low-paying ones—¥50,000 to ¥150,000 a month—that the women suggested, saying, “I genuinely want to see you often too, Flag Maker, so that amount per month is fine.” So we’re playing on completely different fields. That said, after becoming a black-tier member, I noticed that wealthy men tend to try to secure popular black-tier women with their abundant financial resources. As a result, I’ve sometimes been surprised by the high allowances quoted by black-tier women, as well as the monthly amounts other male members offer.
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I’m Maezawa from Shacho-shitsu, and I’ll answer as well. >・How can I invite someone to a monthly arrangement? If you mean how to ask him, I think you should simply tell him that you’d like to arrange things on a monthly basis. Or did you mean how to get him to be the one to suggest a monthly arrangement? >・What kind of female member do men want to have on a monthly arrangement? Usually, exclusivity is part of the deal. Men tend to bring up a monthly arrangement when they want to have someone exclusively. >・Once you enter a monthly arrangement, does the risk of being cut off go down? I don’t think it changes. If he wants to end things, he’ll do so whether it’s a monthly arrangement or pay-per-meeting. >・What’s the minimum amount I should accept for a monthly arrangement? I feel my minimum should be around ¥500,000, since that’s the lowest amount I’ve received in the past. >Are there really men in Universe who can afford that much? Is SALON better for finding men who offer a high allowance? If you’ve already reached your own conclusion, I don’t think you need to ask. Even if someone offered you ¥50,000 as the minimum for a monthly arrangement, you wouldn’t be satisfied with that, right? >・My papa-katsu friends say that SALON men are rich, but since that alone is enough to get them admitted, many of them have difficult personalities. Is that true? That’s false. I don’t know how things are now, but in the beginning, men were screened for their personalities as well. You’ll find men with difficult personalities anywhere. And since some men put on a good front in front of the staff, it’s possible that SALON has some as well. But the question becomes: would you rather deal with a man who has no money and a difficult personality, or one who has plenty of money and a difficult personality? Ideally, of course, you’d want a man who is both kind and willing to spend generously. But there’s no point living in a fantasy. If you join both SALON and Universe, you’ll simply have more men to meet. Meet lots of men and find someone better—that’s where I’d start. >・I don’t really get it, but… A woman like the questioner, who fires off questions like a machine gun and doesn’t seem very endearing, isn’t someone I’d want to date badly enough to put her on a monthly arrangement… Great stuff… Papuwa! (JOJO)
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. To ask for a monthly arrangement, you can simply say, “I’d like us to have a monthly arrangement.” Personally, though, I think a monthly arrangement only creates more opportunities for arguments over how often you meet. Generally, I think men want a monthly arrangement when they want exclusivity. However, since it involves a substantial sum, I think the risk of being dropped also increases. A monthly arrangement takes away the option of simply reducing the number of meetings when you’re not really in the mood to meet. I don’t recommend proposing one early in the relationship. I’ve met and spoken with several women at Universe who were fixated on monthly arrangements, and after hearing them out, all I could think was that they weren’t able to establish relationships because they proposed a monthly arrangement before they even knew each other well. I think the amount someone should agree to varies from person to person. I’m sure there are men who would agree to ¥500,000 or more per month. Also, just because it’s a salon doesn’t mean the amounts are necessarily higher. In fact, after discussing allowances, I didn’t notice any significant difference from the women with black ratings at Universe, and I’m now in my fifth month of seeing a woman from the salon for the same allowance I paid at Universe Club. She limits the number of people she has intimate relationships with, but she isn’t particular about the allowance amount, so she also sees men who pay ¥100,000 or more, as well as men who only meet her for dinner. There are people with difficult personalities at dating clubs, just as there are perfectly decent people. So, part of it is true. However, I think papa-katsu acquaintances who judge the whole forest by looking at a single tree are simply idiots. Just how many men has that person actually met before making such claims?
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member. I’ll answer each point with my personal take. ・How can I ask someone to enter into a monthly arrangement? I don’t think there’s any particular way to ask. If there is one, it would be to become a woman who is convenient for the man in various ways. ・What kind of female member do men want to have a monthly arrangement with? Even if she’s only moderately attractive, I think she needs to be honest, sweet, and likable. ・Once you enter a monthly arrangement, does the risk of being cut off decrease? I don’t think it makes any difference. ・What’s the minimum amount you should accept for a monthly arrangement? I feel the minimum should be ¥500,000 or more, since that was the questioner’s lowest amount in the past. Are there really people at Universe with that kind of financial means? Is a salon better for finding high allowances? Regardless of what other people receive, I think the minimum monthly amount should be whatever you personally feel comfortable with. At Universe, I get the impression that the members range from people who are poor by dating-club standards, like me, all the way to genuinely wealthy people. However, salons seem to have more money available for these arrangements. ・My papa-katsu friends say that salon men are wealthy, but since that alone is enough to become a member, they may have difficult personalities. Is that true? I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. However, since salon members are also aware of their status, there are naturally many who are highly conscious and demanding in various ways. Therefore, if a woman isn’t capable of dating someone like that, she may be judged as “difficult.”
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member. > What kind of female members do men want to put on a monthly arrangement? I think it’s women who are the exact opposite of you.
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