Tips Jun 7, 2023 12:49

I understand that after the second meeting, it becomes a private relationship and the club is no longer involved. However, if a problem arises with a man after the second meeting, how serious does it have to be before the club will step in?

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① Secretly filming, violence, theft, and similar acts are crimes, so the club would at least issue a warning, right? In these cases, if there’s no evidence, would he only receive a stern warning after the first incident rather than being forced to leave the club? ② What about situations such as not paying the agreed allowance—or trying to bargain it down—verbally abusing me, forcing unprotected ejaculation, or standing me up without any notice? If something like this happens and I report it to the staff, will they verify the facts with the man and issue him a stern warning? ③ If it’s behavior like the examples in ② that doesn’t quite constitute a crime but is still seriously lacking in consideration, how many complaints would it take before someone is forced to leave the club? Personally, whenever I encounter a member—man or woman—who behaves inappropriately or violates basic manners, I would like to actively report it to the club and have them take strict and appropriate action.
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①偷拍, violence, and theft are crimes, so surely the club takes action against those, right? In cases like these, if there’s no evidence, would the first incident only result in a serious warning rather than forced termination of membership? When it comes to偷拍, one incident is enough for forced termination if there is evidence. Ideally, the evidence would be the hidden camera itself. If you find one, take it with you when the man is in the shower, leave the room, photograph it, and report it to the club. With that evidence, the man won’t be able to make excuses and will be forced to leave the club. If he was filming with his smartphone, or you couldn’t take the device with you, take a photo of it—or, if possible, a video as well—and it should be accepted as evidence. If he was using his own smartphone, it would naturally have been placed at an unnatural angle, so take a photo of the situation. If possible, ask him to show you the videos on his phone, saying that you want to confirm he wasn’t filming. If you find a video, he may apologize, but some people will apologize in the moment and then tell the club they weren’t filming. So it’s also important to record the video playing on his phone. Afterward, of course, make sure the video is deleted, including from the trash folder. If it isn’t deleted, you won’t know what might happen later, which only creates more worry. In cases of violence or theft, I think it would be fine to report it to the club after going to the police. ② If a man doesn’t pay the agreed allowance—or tries to negotiate it down—verbally abuses you, forces you to have sex without a condom, or stands you up without contacting you, can you report it to the staff and have them verify the facts and issue him a serious warning? If it’s okay to confirm the details with the other person, we will do so. However, warning someone for standing you up probably won’t accomplish much, and I don’t think it would be very effective for verbal abuse either. I think the best way to protect yourself is simply not to continue seeing someone like that. Not paying the agreed allowance is completely unacceptable. If he doesn’t pay anything at all, that would mean there was no consent, so in terms of the name alone, I feel it could even be treated as a case of non-consensual intercourse. However, the law has not yet been amended, and it remains unclear how much the legal requirements will be relaxed or how these cases will actually be handled. Ultimately, it seems it would involve fighting on criminal grounds, while in practice pursuing the matter through civil proceedings. I think forcing someone to have sex without a condom would be similar. That said, if you first ask him to use a condom, you’ll probably be able to tell from his actions if he is trying to do otherwise. > I would like the club to take strict and appropriate action. Universe Club states on the following page that it will deal with such cases in this way, so I think it may be safer than other dating clubs that make no such commitment. https://universe-club.jp/universe-police/policemen/
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I don’t understand why problems arise between men and women, both inside and outside dating clubs. If both people respect each other—and neither gets dumped or suddenly cut off—things should remain amicable. That goes for both men and women. I imagine the same people tend to run into trouble repeatedly. Rather than worrying more than necessary, what matters is being valued. Men won’t become emotionally invested if they feel they’re being treated with suspicion, so I think it’s also important for both sides to make an effort to trust each other.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
It seems you may be under a misconception, but an exclusive dating club is neither a sex-services establishment nor an organizer of prostitution. It certainly isn’t a law enforcement agency, either. If multiple women submit negative reviews, the club may be able to warn the man that his ungentlemanly behavior makes him unsuitable as a member, or even terminate his membership. However, these are individual relationships, so I don’t think you should expect the dating club to do anything beyond that. If you want someone to intervene when there’s a problem with what takes place, you’d probably be better off working at a sex-services establishment.
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