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Aug 14, 2022 01:33
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I often see posts on social media about ex-papas demanding that women return everything they gave them.
Have you ever heard of anything like this happening around you?
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Age: 50s
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The politician involved in papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) seems to be saying he’ll sue the weekly magazine for defamation. However, the magazine will likely quickly verify with the woman involved that the politician knew she was under 20 and therefore a minor. So I think it probably won’t actually go to court—and even if it does, the politician will lose.
That said, since it would be a civil lawsuit, anyone can file one. So it’s impossible to say that papa-katsu could never lead to a lawsuit in the future.
You don’t have to return anything you received.
Even if you don’t lose, being sued is a hassle. Personally, I think it’s important to protect yourself by avoiding conflict as much as possible and ending things amicably.
“I'm suing you.”
“Give back everything I gave you.”
Those are just parting shots, so think carefully about how to end things without giving them a chance to say that, and act accordingly.
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Age: 50s
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I think there are people who demand that gifts be returned, regardless of whether it’s papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
I’ve even heard of cases where a boyfriend demanded that his ex return every gift he’d ever given her.
I haven’t heard of anything like that among people I know, though…
But that politician was doing it for just 40,000 yen? That’s way too little for hush money.
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I’ve been told to “give back the presents,” but never cash, thankfully…
Legally speaking, you don’t have to return it. That’s because, even though papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) involves an agreement, it violates public order and morality under Article 90 of the Civil Code, making it legally invalid.
Since the original agreement is invalid for violating public order and morality, any demand for repayment based on that agreement is invalid as well.
There may be a moral issue involved, but if someone originally gave you something saying, “It’s for you,” I have to wonder how moral it is for them to demand that you return it later.
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> It seems he’s saying he’ll sue the woman involved, but…
I’m not sure where that information came from. When I searched, I found an article saying he planned to sue a weekly magazine for defamation, so it doesn’t seem to be a lawsuit against the woman.
Do you know if he’s also suing or taking legal action against the woman?
> Do I have to return the allowance or gifts I received through papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)?
Generally, no—you don’t have to return things you’ve been given, whether through papa-katsu or otherwise.
> I often see posts on social media from ex-papas demanding that women return what they gave them.
They may write things like that, but it doesn’t seem to have any legal basis.
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It sounds like the politician involved in papa-katsu is saying he’ll sue the woman, but I don’t think filing a lawsuit is that simple.
Considering the risk of losing his seat—and being unable to run in the next election—he can’t exactly rush into court.
What would he even be able to do if he lost his position? LOL
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I’ve never heard of any girls in my circle actually being sued, or of anyone they know being sued.
That said, there are probably lawyers who will take advantage of situations like this, and a certain number of people who threaten to sue while claiming they’re consulting a lawyer. I imagine cases like this will continue to emerge from the industry, including this club, and may already be happening.
If someone tells you, “I’m consulting a lawyer and I’m going to sue,” people who aren’t used to dealing with this may panic and start leaning toward a settlement without really thinking it through. In that situation, I think it’s best to consult the club right away (I don’t know whether they’ll actually help, but they’ll probably offer some kind of advice) or a trustworthy papa, if you have one.
I imagine quite a few papas have connections to lawyers or have dealt with jealous troublemakers before and know how to respond.
For now, the overall profile of papas found through dating clubs seems relatively good, so I think going through a club carries the least risk.
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Age: Private
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You don’t need to pay it back—unless you lied or deceived him.