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Jun 29, 2022 09:38
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It seems that female members aren’t told which category they’re in. However, I assume that male members who make offers to women in the Black category are wealthy, so the allowances tend to be higher.
Or does the category have no bearing on the woman’s own expectations?
I’ve actually met Platinum women who told me themselves that they receive 10 or 15. Anything higher than that would be beyond my means. If the best way to find out is to meet someone in person, I’m willing to do so, but I’d appreciate hearing your opinions. Thank you.
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A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Even after making offers to more than 30 women, from Black to Gold, I’ve never had anyone ask for 10.
The highest I’ve encountered was 8.
Some of them are flight attendants, and others are recognizable names in the entertainment industry.
But even they have all been willing to see me for 5.
Incidentally, I get the impression that the women who ask for 8 tend to be college students.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Women don’t know their own class, so I don’t think there’s much difference in the allowance they ask for right after registering.
However, as you say, black-tier male clients tend to have the mindset that it’s only natural to pay more for someone they consider valuable. (Whether it’s a watch or anything else, things regarded as high-quality are expensive, but if they think they’re worth it, they’ll buy them without saying they’re overpriced.)
So if they see value in someone, they’ll pay more; if they don’t, they’ll pay very little.
In other words, as a woman’s class rises, more men will likely see her as valuable. However, that doesn’t necessarily correspond exactly to her club ranking. More often, the allowance is determined by whether the man personally sees value in her, rather than simply by whether she’s black-tier.
That said, proportionally speaking, men are probably more likely to see value in women of a higher class. (After all, they’re willing to make an offer even when the setting fee is high.) So I think women in higher classes do tend to receive higher allowances.
From that perspective, women will also have more men offering generous allowances. Someone may think that paying 100,000 yen per meeting is enough, only to find that many men are willing to pay more, making their own allowance relatively low.
In that case, naturally, the woman will start prioritizing men who offer more. (Assuming the men are equally attractive in other respects.)
> I’ve actually met Platinum women who told me themselves that they receive 100,000 or 150,000 yen.
If paying more than 100,000 yen is difficult for you, I think you should avoid making offers to black-tier women. Even if you find someone you really like, there’s a high chance you won’t be able to pursue things with her.
However, if you understand that this is simply how dating clubs work and feel that amount is acceptable, it’s also fine to meet her first and ask about her expectations directly.
That said, allowances also serve to make up for the ways a man’s appeal may have diminished due to aging and other factors. So there are men who can still maintain a relationship through their personal charm even if their allowance is low.
But if women have suddenly stopped contacting you in the past, or your relationships never last long, the low allowance is likely the cause. Improving that would help.
Unfortunately, the men with the lowest allowances tend not to realize this. They seem to convince themselves that things are working out with only 50,000 yen, or point out that women on apps say they’ll accept even less, which I think is completely misguided.
Even if someone else is successful offering that amount, you should understand that it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll succeed with the same allowance.
Quite a few women receive 100,000 or even 150,000 yen. In other words, there are men who are willing to pay that much.
If you only believe information that’s convenient for you and ignore anything inconvenient, I think you’re likely to misjudge the situation.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
The club’s Black and Platinum rankings seem completely arbitrary to me m(。>__<。)m
I assume they rank women based on business priorities, but even so, I’m constantly thinking, “There’s no way this person should be ranked like that.”
In the past, there was an unbelievably lucky Gold member, and I managed to secure her with my usual money-flashing tactics. She was an A-type, though. She was even above Black. Even for an A-type, there’s no way she should have been Gold.
I can tell from the videos which girls are likely to get lots of offers and face intense competition, and my predictions have never been wrong. I’m confident that my eye for beautiful women—at least that—is first-rate.
With “Black women from the loser-guy perspective,” just as my eye predicted, the allowance they want is high. In fact, there are two women who wouldn’t even meet me, despite my offering an allowance of over 10 for an adult relationship through a letter date. Both were B-types, and one of them was clearly misrepresented as to her type.
I’m especially good with A-types, so if she had been listed as A-type from the start, my strategy would have been completely different.
That said, I’ve never been turned down after meeting in person, so I’m publicly admitting my embarrassment as an example of how choosing a letter date can backfire.
By the way, my ace was Platinum. She said not a single papa offered less than 10 pay-per-meeting for an adult relationship. I think she met around 15 men. I also remember there being one who offered 100 pay-per-meeting. The ace’s beauty is something only people with an eye for it can appreciate. I also realized that there were members offering her more allowance than I was.
With my ace, I started at 20 pay-per-meeting and secured her in seconds. Now I give her a three-digit monthly allowance.
Rather than Black members specifically, A-type girls tend to expect a high allowance when things develop into an adult relationship. I give around 15. Since I’m the only papa she has for an adult relationship, I’d feel bad giving her anything less, so I make the allowance generous.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
> I’ve actually met “platinum” women in person who told me they receive 10 or 15.
It’s probably better to think of it as varying depending on the man, not the woman. They’re most likely quoting you about twice that amount…
Well, even for an overnight stay, that’s how it is.
> She said there wasn’t a single papa (a male supporter) who offered less than 10 per meeting for an adult relationship (intimate).
Even when they say that, there are actually men who meet them without paying an allowance, or papas who pay very little. You can’t live as a person if you’re constantly stressed out…
In papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), just like with business clients, the larger the amounts involved, the more the stress increases.
As the answers here suggest, when there’s no concern about profit or loss in the exchange of money, it can be stress-free—sometimes even a way to relieve stress.
Women are finding a good balance, too.
And since each man has a different role to play, all of these arrangements are necessary in their own way.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
No, I don’t think that’s the case.
Women from every class—Gold, Platinum, and Black—have asked for a pay-per-meeting allowance of 100,000 yen. I’ve only made offers to and met a few Standard women, so I’ve never heard that request from a Standard woman.
Personally, I don’t think a woman’s class has anything to do with the amount of her allowance. My assessment of a woman isn’t influenced by the club staff’s assessment of her.
In fact, we men don’t decide whom to approach based on a woman’s class—we decide after looking at her profile, don’t we?