When considering working through a relationship club, it seems that being chosen by men consistently is no easy feat. What is it actually like? Men are in a position where they can always choose a fresh new woman, and because of that, I feel the system doesn’t really create much need for them to keep choosing the same person.
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From the perspective of the economic theory of diminishing marginal utility as well, isn’t papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) a low-odds contest where you have to survive a fierce cycle of replacements?
When I ask the female respondents here who have continued to succeed, the answer usually ends with “It depends on the person.” So, setting your own success stories aside for the moment, I would appreciate it if you could give me your best broad estimate of the rate at which a relationship with one man continues for a full year. For future reference, I would also be grateful if the male respondents could share the rate at which an arrangement continues for a year after the initial offer.
This question is framed around how difficult it is for women to keep being chosen, but I also believe that it is similarly difficult for men themselves to keep being chosen. I wanted to mention that for the sake of fairness.
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Looks, figure, personality, and chemistry—
it’s surprisingly hard to find someone who has it all and feels worth the allowance.
When I do find someone like that, I don’t want to let her go, so I ask for a monthly arrangement, treat her well, and stay together for as long as possible.
Every now and then, I get dazzled by someone fresh and make an offer, but lately I haven’t met many women who surpass my current monthly partners, Fuu included.
If I ever part ways with my monthly partners, I think I’ll make lots of offers and look for new ones.
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I’m not really sure why, despite being a man, you’re writing about being chosen by men. Is this perhaps BL? Are you a man who’s attracted to other men?
That said, I have no idea whether being chosen by men is difficult for you. If it is, you can simply stop.
There are many different ways to live, so I think you should choose the path you won’t regret.
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I’d appreciate it if you could set aside your own successful experiences for a moment and give me an overall, estimated one-year continuation rate with a single man. When I ask the women here who seem to keep succeeding, they always just say, “It depends on the person,” so I’d like to learn from a broader perspective.
By “an overall estimate,” I mean a personal answer, since we don’t know other people’s numbers.
I probably continue for more than a year with over half of my supporters. Even when things fade out after about a year, I’m often fortunate enough to receive invitations from them repeatedly afterward.
That said, I prefer to maintain long-term relationships with a small number of papa supporters, so the number of people I date naturally stays lower. I’m the type who wants to build a deep relationship with each other, and I think I put quite a lot of effort into that.
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By spending a long time together, she gradually opens up, and the way she experiences the relationship also begins to change.
I think people who don’t know how enjoyable that can be look for a fresh woman after just a few dates.
Ideally, I’d like to find a woman I can continue seeing for at least a year. But realistically, only about one in five or six women becomes a long-term arrangement.
Since I offer a monthly pay-per-meeting allowance of ¥50,000, I suppose things only continue with women who are comfortable with that.
I also tell the women I see that I don’t limit myself to just one partner, but given my time and energy, I can manage about three women at once.
The women things work well with tend to think the same way. For example, they might also see two or three other men once or twice a month.
I advise the women I see to make sure they won’t suddenly be in financial trouble if one relationship ends along the way.
At the moment, there’s one woman I’ve been seeing for a long time and would like to continue seeing. Recently, I’ve also met another woman I think I could have a long-term arrangement with.
The woman I’m meeting for fun today was Type A when she registered, but after dating me, she said her outlook had changed and that she might be open to an adult relationship (intimate). So if things develop, I may stop making new offers for a while.
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I’ve only been registered for six months, so I can’t speak to arrangements lasting over a year, but I wouldn’t say I’m particularly successful either.
I honestly feel that maintaining an ongoing arrangement is really difficult. As you said, men have other options, so if they feel even slightly that you’re not the right fit, they’ll probably choose someone else.
With SALON, there’s no such thing as reverse offers or messages saying, “You seem wonderful,” so all you can do is wait to be set up. That’s why I feel genuinely nervous and anxious before every meeting.
You described it as a low-odds game, and I think that’s exactly right. Perhaps that’s why I’m able to appreciate meeting each man so much.
I’m sorry this probably wasn’t the answer you were looking for.
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Oh, you’re a man. I thought the way you wrote it sounded like a nitpicky woman.
Judging from what you’ve shared, I’d say your chances of continuing with one woman are probably within the expected range.
As you wrote at the beginning, “fresh women” means women who have only recently registered. And when people say “it depends on the person,” frankly, it means you won’t get a second meeting unless you’re a genuinely wonderful man she clicks with.
In my experience, women in their early twenties tend to be especially demanding. After all, it seems many will simply lie there passively as long as they get paid. You wouldn’t want that either, right?
Try making offers and looking for women you click with, can talk comfortably with, and feel at ease around—of course, someone you’re compatible with intimately as well.
You won’t meet anyone unless you make plenty of offers.
I’ve been seeing one woman I really click with for about two and a half years now. But we argue from time to time, so I’m thinking of looking for someone else too. I’m always open to offers.
You never know until you actually meet someone, right?
Have you ever tried figuring out what might be wrong on your end? Rather than looking for flaws in the women, try looking at your own shortcomings. You may find a clue to solving the problem.
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Was I the only one who felt that the questioner’s mindset came through in the phrase “fresh”?
Personally, I think the interesting thing about dating is that the relationship grows deeper the longer it continues with a woman. That said, there are certainly men who simply want to be intimate with lots of fresh faces.
From the women’s perspective as well, some people don’t mind the effort of maintaining a relationship with one particular man, while others find it difficult.
On top of that, whether you happen to meet someone you’re compatible with seems to depend heavily on luck.
I think these are the circumstances behind the recent question about the “three-meeting wall.”
https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/11834
There are six women I’ve been intimate with four times or more. I met two of them over a year ago, and the other four within the past year.
Of those, two relationships have lasted more than a year (100%).
Three women I met within the past year are still seeing me (75%).
As for the continuation rate from offers, I generally try not to be intimate with women who have sent me a reverse offer. I’d like to talk with women who are interested in me, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I want to sleep with them.
Also, for a while after joining, I would generally try an adult relationship first and then decide. But after I began seeing someone without protection, I started avoiding adult relationships unless I was reasonably interested in her over dinner, in order to reduce the risk of contracting an STI through oral sex.
So the women I’ve been intimate with four times or more account for less than 10% of all my offers.
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