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Feb 19, 2022 15:29
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I get the impression that people who keep insisting on 5 either aren’t paying much attention to what’s happening around them, can’t adapt to the times, or don’t understand what women are looking for. What do you think?
Isn’t the “flat-rate 5 movement” something that exists only among a few cheapskates, people who can’t afford to be generous, and women who undersell themselves, rather than something that’s widely accepted by society?
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🏅 パパ活歴8年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
That’s good to hear. It doesn’t seem like Fuu made an offer to the questioner.
There’s no need to be pressured into someone else’s way of thinking. You should decide your own worth for yourself.
Other people are other people, and you are you.
Even wallets with a similar design can have very different prices depending on whether they’re branded or not. The seller assigns the value, and the buyer decides whether to accept it.
Women are free to enhance their appearance and personal branding and set a higher value for themselves. They’re also free to assess their worth realistically, charge less, and make up for it through volume. And if they decide they made a mistake, they’re free to change their strategy along the way.
I think everyone should simply do what they’re comfortable with.
If you think 5 isn’t enough, all you have to do is turn it down. It’s entirely up to you.
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I feel like some people are exaggerating… Even for popular girls in central Tokyo, 100,000 yen isn’t the norm. I’d say 70,000–80,000 yen is more typical.
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
Honestly, I don’t care anymore. I’m happy with my own life.
It’s creepy how fixated people are on whether the money is high or low. It gives me goosebumps.
Just to avoid any misunderstanding, yesterday I spent 100,000 yen on the allowance, plus 70,000 yen for food, the hotel, and other expenses. I had a great time~
On the other hand, there are plenty of women I don’t feel are worth even 50,000 yen. That’s the real problem.
It’s important, so I’ll say it twice: there are lots of women who simply aren’t worth what you pay them. That’s the problem.
I’ve never regretted giving an allowance. Honestly, there are very few women like that.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
>Being offered 100,000 yen per meeting is overwhelmingly more common than being offered 50,000 yen.
Hmm, I’d like to agree with you, but I’ve honestly never heard of that. Though, if the questioner is an extremely popular “black-tier” girl in a major city, then I suppose it’s possible.
I have allowance data for an extremely popular platinum girl who received enough offers to rank among the club’s top three ever, as well as another platinum girl who was nearly as popular. Among all the supporters, including me, only one or two offered more than 100,000 yen per meeting.
The vast majority were Carlos Ghosn, with fewer than five cases mixed in where they offered 70,000–80,000 yen per meeting.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
Fine, fine.
Glad you got 10.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
If that’s what you’ve experienced and believe, then, as you said, it’s simply a different world (or society) from yours, so please leave it alone.
I first ask women whether they’re open to an adult relationship (intimate) and what allowance they’re looking for. In my world, women who mention 5 are overwhelmingly more common than those who mention 10.
We’re clearly not going to see eye to eye, but I don’t think there’s any need to force our differing experiences and perspectives to match.