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Feb 9, 2022 18:47
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I’ve heard that cabaret club hostesses have been quietly making their way into dating clubs. Is this some strategy to raise their value because hostesses tend to be avoided?
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Age: 50s
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Since they’re charging you just to sit beside you and have drinks, they need to have some kind of appeal for it to work as a job. I don’t think it would be a viable business without a certain number of cute or beautiful women.
Ginza hostesses are in a league of their own. There are several places with women who are attractive, attentive, and reliable even for business entertaining.
I don’t actively offer deals to cabaret club hostesses, but there have been women I approached who also worked as hostesses—students or office workers by day who worked part-time at a cabaret club at night.
They were used to men, so they were good at closing the distance from the very beginning. Maybe it was just coincidence, but they tended to be overly familiar and constantly checked their phones(笑). They also smoked, so none of them became a monthly arrangement. Their looks, faces, and figures were good, though...
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Age: 40s
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Whether someone is a hostess, a sex worker, has had plastic surgery, is messy in their personal life, irresponsible with money, or whatever else, my view is that “a good person is a good person.”
Their job, appearance, and so on don’t change their worth. All that matters is whether I personally feel they’re a good person.
There are equally good people among hostesses, sex workers, adult entertainers, papa-katsu girls, people whose private lives are a mess, and even people who are stupid and easily deceived. That’s my conclusion.
If anything, since there are more papa-katsu girls overall, there also seem to be more unpleasant ones. That’s just my impression, though—maybe it’s because I mostly deal with black- and platinum-tier women. They might be victims in relative terms too, but, well, I guess it’s partly their own fault, lol.
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会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
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Whether it’s a cabaret club or a dating club, you get all kinds of women—from girls who seem completely inexperienced to those who are practically professionals. There probably isn’t that much difference overall.
If you happen to come across an exceptional girl, I’d say it’s just a matter of luck.
That said, if someone is already working in cabaret or nightlife and then joins a dating club as well, they’re basically becoming a professional by that point.
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With COVID, it seems many women who can’t make much money working at hostess bars or clubs have been moving into dating clubs and similar services.
Still, there seem to be men who say that being pretty is all that matters, so from the dating club’s perspective, I think it’s a good thing if it leads to more offers.
There must be plenty of naturally cute and beautiful women there too, right?
I wouldn’t know, though—I’ve never been.
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It’s not just hostesses—I’m doing my best to increase my value as a man, too.
I’m also trying to raise the allowance I give the women I date, and to make sure they think highly of me as a partner… haha.
That said, times are tough. COVID made it difficult for my business to move forward the way I wanted.
I imagine cabaret club hostesses are having a hard time these days too, since their income isn’t stable. Some of them are really cute, so be nice to them, okay?(笑)
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There are all kinds of cabaret club hostesses, but I’m not a fan of the trendy plastic-surgery look either.
Those faces that look like the “generic Angela Baby” I’ve mentioned several times—like a faded copy of Emiri Ai●—are beautiful, but you can see too much of their burning desire and insecurities, so I find myself looking away.
Like, “You definitely had hyaluronic acid injected into your forehead to make it round, didn’t you?”
But—
> Maybe they’re trying to raise their own value because cabaret club hostesses tend to be avoided?
I think that’s reading too much into it. It feels like the tiniest little conspiracy theory.
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Age: 50s
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I know what you mean. Men aren’t looking at your collarbones—they’re looking at your face, breasts, and legs.
Women from dating clubs are cuter than hostesses.
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Age: 50s
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I feel much the same as the person asking the question—I’m not really into women who wear heavy makeup either.
That said, I’ve always avoided women who work in nightlife, so it may just be a case of judging without giving them a chance.
Some women may use that as a strategy, but I don’t think most women are deliberately trying to do anything like that.
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I see things a little differently.
What women consider “cute” in another woman is often quite different from what men consider cute.
I get the feeling that the person asking the question either hasn’t had many close relationships with women yet, or hasn’t had many really deep conversations with them.
Once you become friends with women, they’ll sometimes show you photos of their boyfriends or pictures of women they think are cute. (笑)
That’s when you realize just how different their standards can be.
For example, when I’m talking with female staff, I often hear them say things like, “I love her collarbones.”
Personally, I don’t pay any attention to collarbones at all, so I sometimes end up asking, “What’s so appealing about them?”
But apparently, for most women, collarbones are one of the things they look at.
It seems women focus on completely different features than men do.