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Feb 8, 2022 23:14
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We also go on a trip about once a month.
Since there’s an adult relationship every time, I feel like the going rate should be at least 200,000–250,000 yen.
Because it’s a monthly arrangement, it’s hard to ask him to increase my allowance now. I’d also like to receive something extra for the trips, but is the whole point of a monthly arrangement to make it cheaper?
What kind of rates do you set for your monthly-arrangement girlfriends?
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Age: 60s
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I have a monthly arrangement with C-chan. She asked for ¥200,000 a month, and I agreed because I figured I could manage that. Since C-chan is originally a personal trainer, we met twice a week. That amount would probably make the person asking this question absolutely furious. It’s no excuse, but her training routine barely takes an older guy’s stamina into account, so I basically have no energy or physical strength left for sex afterward. That’s why we only had sex once last month. We haven’t this month yet.
Still, C-chan is not only kindhearted but also an athlete, and she carries my not-exactly-light self from the gym all the way home.
However, her boyfriend, who’s been away on a solo assignment, will be coming back soon, so this relationship will be ending before long. Cash would probably be the best way to thank her, right? That’s what I think, so I’m saving up.
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Age: Private
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> Since it’s a monthly arrangement, I feel awkward asking him to increase my allowance now.
That way of thinking is understandable.
If you ask to raise the amount halfway through, even though you agreed on it at the start, there’s a possibility the relationship could end.
So with your current papa, I think you should decide whether to continue as things are or end it.
If you discuss a monthly arrangement with someone new in the future, and you’re concerned about the amount per meeting, you could say something like:
“I’m okay with a monthly allowance of 15, but we can only meet up to twice a month.”
(I assume 15 is probably the amount he can afford to pay.)
If, as you continue seeing each other, he says he’d like to meet four times a month, you’ll then be able to say, “In that case, I’d like 30.”
If you want 20–25, I think you should ask for 25.
The amount is ultimately decided somewhere between what you want and what the other person is willing to pay.
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
The fact that you’re talking about “pricing” already makes it sound like the adult entertainment industry.
I wouldn’t travel with a woman unless she gave me something extra on top of the allowance. Even if I did, I wouldn’t enjoy the trip with someone like that…
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I’m Taro, a male member.
If the allowance feels like compensation for physical labor, I think a pay-per-meeting arrangement would be better. A monthly arrangement is more like receiving a set amount because you have monthly expenses, while also genuinely enjoying spending time together and meeting as often as you can. For example, if you met once a week in a dating-club-style arrangement, that would be four hours × three times a month (excluding your period), or 12 hours a month. But if you were actually dating, I think you’d spend around 40 hours together each month, even if you didn’t meet particularly often. That’s based on my own experience.
I’ve only had one monthly arrangement. Since we lived far apart, I could only visit for one weekend a month, but we were practically inseparable. At one point, she suggested that we stay awake the entire weekend because sleeping would be a waste of time—which was a pretty extreme idea. In the end, she fell asleep while we were carrying it out, and I had to carry her home. Even when we weren’t together, we chatted every day and stayed together online until bedtime. In terms of both time and intimacy, it was incomparably more involved than a pay-per-meeting relationship.
At the very least, I don’t think that man is the monthly-arrangement type you’re looking for, so I think you should switch back to pay-per-meeting. I know it may be difficult to say, but why not explain things carefully and discuss it with him? If he refuses to listen and cuts things off, that probably means he was viewing you as a low-cost escort service. In that case, perhaps it’s actually better that you were able to reach a conclusion sooner. If losing that income would be a serious problem, I’d suggest finding another option (another papa) discreetly first, and then negotiating.
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Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
With a monthly arrangement, the first step is crucial.
You can go by your own sense of the going rate, but the amount may vary depending on whether he’s a good person or a hassle—and even things like body odor from aging.
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If you break it down per meeting, it’s probably around three.
It may cause friction if you directly ask him to increase your allowance, so you’ll have to create days when you can’t meet.
Why not try limiting your meetings to around three times a month?
If he asks why you can’t meet, you could say, “There’s something I want to buy, so I’ve taken on more part-time work.” If he’s thoughtful, he may offer to increase your allowance.
Maybe he thinks he can get intimacy for cheap, though. You should look for another papa (a male supporter) too.
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It all depends on how satisfied you are.
If you compare someone else’s allowance here, decide yours is higher or lower than the going rate, become dissatisfied, and then negotiate until things fall apart, your 15 ends up becoming zero.
The same goes for trips. It depends on the relationship—whether you’re happy simply because you get to stay somewhere nice that you normally couldn’t, with a papa you enjoy spending time with, or whether you think, “I’m accompanying him, so shouldn’t I get extra allowance?”
A monthly arrangement may sound good, but in the end, one of you is bound to become dissatisfied.
And generally speaking, nothing good comes from getting too greedy.
Marika
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Age: 40s
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Based on my limited experience with monthly arrangements, the allowance ranged from 150,000 at the highest to 30,000 at the lowest.
In every case, the woman said, “That’s too much! ○○ is plenty,” and that’s how we ended up with a monthly arrangement. So to me, a monthly arrangement is basically a lucky, see-you-as-often-as-we-want deal.