I’m the person who asked the question at 12:43 on December 29, 2021.
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Dear Makeo,
The reasons why some members end up losing out are as follows.
Universe Club has now introduced Letter Date (I don’t know what the current situation is with it), and lower-priced offers have broadened its male membership base.
It seems likely that a large number of men who previously didn’t use dating clubs have joined the club.
For Letter Date—for example, among GOLD members—I imagine pay-per-meeting arrangements of ¥30,000 have become common.
Previously, male members paid ¥50,000 per meeting, in a sense helping support the club’s reputation. However, members paying ¥30,000 per meeting through Letter Date can free-ride on that reputation.
In that sense, I feel that the former group of men paying ¥50,000 per meeting are the ones losing out.
Dear Mac,
Your theory about elevator shoes really made sense to me. You’re one of the people I look up to. After reading one of your previous answers, I also bought a jacket from a certain leather manufacturer.
Dear Dai,
I realize I’m penny-pinching, but that’s precisely how I succeeded in business. Even the stingy members help support the club.
With Letter Date, the boundary between apps and dating clubs has become increasingly blurred, so I feel that saying “¥50,000 per meeting is the norm, right?” is outdated.
Could someone clearly explain why it’s taken for granted that allowances at dating clubs should be higher than on apps—and whether that’s still considered the norm today?
I’m always grateful for the club’s help, and I truly appreciate all the staff.
I’m columnist Fuu.
If you feel you’re getting the short end of the stick, why not go with 3?
Once the club makes an introduction, you’re free to pursue the relationship however you like.
If another papa offers 5 and you offer 3, the papa might（笑） cut you off, lower your priority, or treat you more casually. But I don’t think Fuu is losing out here...
Ideally, I’d like dating clubs to attract women who are more attractive and have better personalities than those on apps and other web-based services. That would give clubs a reason to exist as a service that offers better allowances than apps and web-based services. I hope they’ll come to occupy the top position in papa-katsu.
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I’m a loser among the male members.
Sorry, I’m genuinely not very bright, so I honestly don’t understand what you’re saying at all…
Also, letter dates are difficult and unpopular. Only highly trained people like me can really handle them (for some reason, I’m bragging a little here).
I’ve always enjoyed treating people, so I love the moment I hand over the allowance just as much as I enjoy climaxing. The higher it is, the better it feels.
I don’t understand what you mean by “losing money.”
My life was pretty unremarkable, but I kept moving forward without giving up, and eventually got lucky and became wealthy.
It was always my dream to treat people generously, so the higher the allowance, the happier it makes me.
That said, you seem like a nice person. I’d honestly be happy to become friends.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
> Is it still generally true that allowances at clubs are higher than on apps? Could someone explain this clearly?
I don’t think it’s necessarily still true that allowances are higher than on apps. However, I suspect that more men at clubs have greater financial leeway for dating.
I’m not sure how things work now, but when I joined, I was asked about my approximate income. Since it was asked face-to-face during the interview, I couldn’t exactly lie, so I answered honestly（笑）
I imagine apps use a similar system, but some people may answer differently when asked in person compared with entering the information on a computer.
If that’s the case, perhaps clubs have more reliable information about the men. And if so, men with more money available for dating may find it easier to offer higher allowances.
As Mr. Make-Otoko often says, men tend to loosen their purse strings for their favorites, so I think the allowance may also increase. Therefore, I suspect there are more women receiving higher allowances at clubs.
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I’m in Seattle.
The number of male members has been increasing over the past few years. As a result, even women who previously couldn’t get an offer or make an arrangement may now be able to do so for 3.
That’s not necessarily a bad thing. It’s better than zero. I hope everyone can find at least a little happiness.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I believe pay-per-meeting 3 has been around for quite some time.
I don’t really understand why someone would feel they got a bad deal just because they’re receiving 5 while someone else is receiving 3. Nor would I feel especially lucky if I were receiving 5 while someone else was receiving 10. I’m me, and other people are other people.
I can understand feeling like you got a bad or good deal if you bought a commercially available product at a high price. But in dating, an allowance for a woman isn’t the price of an item or payment in return for something.
To borrow Mac’s words, an allowance is a condom for the heart. I don’t have any particular interest in pondering over the thickness of condoms.
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Isn’t the idea that two Gold members on Letter Date would agree on ¥30,000 purely speculation in the first place?
Or do you have evidence but can’t say what it is?
Also, I don’t think there are that many men who would join a dating club just because offers on Letter Date became cheaper.
But again, that’s just my speculation, with no evidence behind it.
Marika
My view is that the allowance is something the two people involved agree on, so I wish neither men nor women—whether they want to lower it or raise it—would bring it up in the Q&A box.
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