Tips Jun 21, 2021 07:11

I’m thinking of making an offer to a B-type woman for the first time next time, and I’d appreciate your opinions.

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When would be the right time to negotiate the allowance terms? ① During the meal at the first meeting, explain that I won’t be inviting her to an adult relationship that day, and negotiate the terms. ② Just exchange contact information at the first meeting, then negotiate later by email or another method. ③ Meet a second time for a meal or something similar, and negotiate then. These are the options that came to mind, but if there’s a better time, I’d appreciate your suggestions. I understand that it depends on the atmosphere and how well you click, so there’s no one-size-fits-all answer. However, with option ①, I feel it wouldn’t be all that different from a C-type arrangement.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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Maezawa from the President’s Office here. > If it’s option ①, though, it seems like it wouldn’t be all that different from a C-type arrangement. I think it’s quite different, since you would first say that you’re not inviting her anywhere that day, and then discuss the possibility of seeing each other in the future. Some women may feel uncomfortable discussing future arrangements before they’ve even gotten to know someone. But generally speaking, I’ve also heard women say things like, “He didn’t discuss the terms at all, so I wondered if he was looking for someone to marry.” The man may have been trying to be considerate by avoiding a discussion of the terms, but that can sometimes have the opposite effect. Even women registered as B-type are there because they understand it’s a dating club, so I think they’re naturally curious about the terms of any future arrangement. Of course, they choose B because they want to see whether they can accept the man in the first place. If he’s someone they simply can’t accept on a personal level, then there’s no point discussing the terms of a future arrangement. That judgment needs to come first. With that in mind, I think it’s important to have a meal, talk, and carefully observe the other person’s expressions and reactions. If you feel she may be receptive, it seems perfectly reasonable to say that you won’t be inviting her anywhere that day, and then discuss the terms of seeing each other in the future. That said, as I mentioned earlier, some women dislike discussing terms before they’ve had a chance to get closer, so it can be a difficult balance. Hopefully, you can learn to enjoy dating clubs with those nuances in mind.
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
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I’m a male member, and unless a girl is more of a C type, there’s no negotiation over the terms at all. Pure B-type girls can’t really respond when you discuss it with them, so I’ve basically stopped bringing up the amount. > But if it’s ①, I feel like it isn’t that different from a C type. You could say the same thing about ② and ③. If she leans toward C, any timing in ① or ③ is fine. If she’s C-leaning, you can negotiate that day and proceed just as you would with a C type. If she ranges from A-leaning to a pure B type, I think it’s better to wait a little longer. I feel that the appeal of a B type is enjoying it while accepting the uncertainty involved. Also, I don’t negotiate the allowance with girls I really like—but only when I’m prepared to give her ¥20,000–30,000 sooner or later, regardless of how far away she lives. It has to be a girl I like enough to have the kind of resolve Maezawa-san described before. Proceeding without negotiating the allowance is scary for men, too, and requires a certain level of commitment. Unless there’s an exceptional reason, I think negotiating the allowance is essential.
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バジル
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Basil, a male member. I don’t really change my approach based on the woman’s dating type. Once we’ve finished the main course, I’ll say something like, “I’m interested in starting an ongoing relationship—not just meeting today. That said, I’m not expecting this to be dinner only.” I’ll gauge her reaction, and sometimes I’ll bring up the allowance as well. More than half of them seem to want to take things slowly or think it over, so we’ll either make plans for next time or exchange contact information. Of course, some turn me down outright. On the other hand, some agree right there. In those cases, if I gently ask, “By the way, if you’d be comfortable with it, would you like to…?” I’m turned down less often. Mr. Maezawa would probably scold me, but after coming this far, I feel it would actually be more disrespectful to the women not to ask. They have their own reasons and are approaching papa-katsu with a certain resolve, after all.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. I choose one of options ①–③ on the spot, depending on how the woman seems to be feeling. That said, I rarely go with ② because it’s hard to gauge her reaction.
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer. Since Type B covers such a broad range, negotiations based on the assumption that things will go further don’t always work out. After step ②, rather than negotiating the terms, I usually ask the woman what she has in mind over LINE.
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