What kind of man is a woman’s ideal match at a dating club?
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After a year of doing this, I’ve formed a picture of the kind of man whose low allowance (the minimum amount I’ve set for myself) I could still put up with.
【SEX】
Everything, from foreplay to penetration, ends quickly.
No kissing or going down on me.
No bad breath.
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There are plenty of older men who ask, “Does sex with me feel good?” But I joined the club for the money—I’m not looking for pleasure from sex. The less time I have to be touched by, or physically interact with, a creepy old man, the more comfortable I feel mentally.
The older men’s bad breath comes up often in questions, but nothing is more unpleasant than kissing one of them. Seriously, why do men in their 50s and up have such bad breath? I understand that they only have a limited budget to spend at the club, but if they don’t want to be disliked, they could at least take care of their breath.
【DINING】
It’s nice to go to upscale restaurants I normally couldn’t afford, but a reasonably priced place with a private room where we can finish eating quickly is fine too.
Also, if you choose an affordable restaurant that you could go to with friends, please be humble about it. Don’t show off by saying things like, “This place is lovely, isn’t it?” or “The food is delicious, isn’t it?” or “Aren’t you going to take a picture?” It’s just secondhand embarrassment.
I don’t want people to see me with him, so 【a private room is a must】.
【MESSAGING】
Don’t send me persistent messages. Don’t invite me to do things in your private life.
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When an older man tells me, “Let’s do our best this week too!” it doesn’t motivate me—it just kills the mood. And even if he invites me to play golf or go to a concert, I absolutely don’t want to go. It isn’t worth the allowance. Save the invitations until you can afford to pay around ¥500,000 a month.
I’m sure some men will see this, have reality shoved in their faces, and feel like arguing, so I look forward to your responses, haha.
Tell me what your ideals are.
I’m Aya, a female member.
Today, I had lunch with my papa (a male supporter) at Aman Tokyo, then we drove around the waterfront area in his Ferrari. He also listened to me talk about some work-related concerns, and we had a wonderful time together.
I feel so lucky to have a relationship where we can take our time together starting in the middle of a weekday. I hope you find a papa you can feel this way about soon, too.
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I’m BB7, a male member.
Women like this get cut off immediately.
I feel sorry for you, the person asking this question, for only ever meeting men like this and putting up with them.
Good luck.
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Maezawa from the president’s office here, answering as well.
Everyone’s different, so if that’s how you feel, then isn’t that perfectly fine? I can’t say whether it will lead to a good relationship, but everyone is free to live as they choose.
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Honestly, as many of you have written, aren’t customers at sex-service establishments generally like that? They pay for sex and nothing more—no unnecessary complications.
I get to have meals with my wonderful papa (a male supporter), go to hot springs, play golf, and enjoy so many different things together. We can even talk about work, business management, and current events, so I find it incredibly fulfilling.
I’m truly happy to have met someone like him.
I’m very grateful.
Oh, sorry for bragging about my relationship!
Marika
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I’m Date ◎ Yume, a male member.
I understand your question very well, and there’s a lot I can relate to（笑）.
That said, it did make me feel that dating clubs probably aren’t a good fit for people who can’t enjoy the relationship itself—not just the sex or the money.
What do you think? Was that a “bull’s-eye”?
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
As others have pointed out, the kind of man the questioner is looking for would probably go to a low-cost brothel district like Tobita Shinchi. I think the turnover is faster there, so you could make more money. That said, I hear Tobita Shinchi has recently become highly competitive, with even AV actresses working there, so a less competitive area like Shintayama Shinchi might be a better option.
If you want to set your own prices and don’t want a club taking a cut, your options would probably be working the streets or using a dating site for compensated dating. In that case, yakuza might try to extort protection money from you, so do your best not to pay.
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I’m Tetsu, a male member.
That was quite a long post—good effort. I hope you continue participating in the club while putting up with things. Oh, I suppose that was an unnecessary comment too.
My ideal woman is, at the very least, someone who doesn’t think the way you do.
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I’m columnist Fuu.
I agree with Taro-san. Based on your ideal requirements, I think working in Tobita Shinchi would fulfill what you’re looking for.
【SEX】
Everything, from foreplay to penetration, ends quickly. No kissing or oral. No bad breath.
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There’s almost no foreplay. They just use lotion to get you wet and then go in. You’re basically just renting out your body. The sessions last 15–20 minutes, with only about 5–10 minutes actually spent inside. You can make kissing and oral off-limits.
You’ll just have to put up with the bad breath. At least you can make money.
As for meals and messaging, there aren’t any, so problem solved.
Since you can earn a fixed amount, you won’t have to worry about whether a man is cheap, so it probably won’t be stressful. You might not even need to use this anonymous Q&A box as an outlet for your frustrations anymore, right? (lol)
My ideal supporters are the ongoing arrangements I have now. They satisfy me physically, let me enjoy a pseudo-romantic relationship, happily eat the meals I choose, and occasionally message me on LINE. I’m grateful to them. Since I’m satisfied, I value the relationship and keep things going.
There are all kinds of PJ girls. Some think just like you, while others are like the girls in Fuu’s ongoing arrangements.
It seems pretty obvious which type will be chosen by papas.
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I’m Taro, a male member.
It already feels a bit like bait when the question is aimed at such a broad audience, even though it’s something female members should be answering（笑). But it’s interesting, so I’ll give a serious answer.
It might be useful as an opportunity for male members to reflect on themselves, but while basic bad-breath care is a given, you shouldn’t be denying all those other qualities. Isn’t the whole point of a dating club to find someone whose traits you can appreciate?
If you feel you’re not compatible, just turn them down. If you keep seeing them anyway, that’s a sign that you’re okay with it. Sending that signal through your behavior while secretly thinking the opposite is deceptive, isn’t it? In other words, you’re deceiving them because you want the money. What does that say about you as a person?
People have both good and bad sides, so I think it’s perfectly normal to ask something like, “I like her overall, but is there any way she could improve this one thing?” But this question isn’t like that.
As some serious advice, I think Tobita Shinchi would be a better fit for the person asking this question. You could earn more money with less stress.
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Yeah, you’re probably right. I feel the same way, haha.
That’s why whenever things end up lasting longer or getting more intense than expected, I always apologize like, “I’m really sorry about that m(_ _)m.”
And I always make sure to ask the woman about the restaurant and everything. If she says, “If possible, somewhere with a private room,” I kind of feel a little down, too.
Come to think of it, a guy who hands over the agreed allowance, finishes in an instant—bam, done—takes a quick shower, says “Thanks!” and heads home at top speed… Somehow, imagining that is kind of cool, haha.
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
Thank you for the lengthy response.
After reading your question, I was once again filled with a profound sense of happiness. My heart is overflowing with gratitude and emotion for my current partner.
I can relate to some of the points you made, but I’ll have to respectfully decline dating someone who thinks that way. You seem like someone who might find it difficult to enjoy papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) to the fullest. I hope you’ll forgive me.
P.S.
Wait—Tobita? As a graduate of “Tobi University,” Paper Airplane here often uses Tobita Shinchi as a date destination too. Strictly for sightseeing and looking around, of course.
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