Tips Sep 27, 2020 22:54

I’m the longtime member who asked earlier about being unsure of the relationship types.

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Thank you for your response, Maezawa-san. I’d like to share my thoughts below by quoting your comments. >>In my experience, until about two years ago, most B-type arrangements developed into an adult relationship that same day, but >Yes, that’s unacceptable. >The questioner has misunderstood something. >B-type women want to finish with dinner on the first day. >What were you thinking, inviting her to an adult relationship that same day? What I meant by saying that staff members cannot accurately identify a woman’s relationship type was: → She is actually C-type, but has been classified as a B-type woman. → She is B-type, but responds to my appeal and persuasion, and the relationship develops. This is a point on which opinions may differ, but I believe that if dating means choosing a partner according to how you feel about each other, then the timing of developing into an adult relationship should also be decided according to the individual partner. Is there an explicitly written rule at Universe stating that you must absolutely never invite a B-type woman on an adult date? Moreover, there have also been cases where A-type women agreed to an adult date. Is this also explicitly prohibited by the rules? I would appreciate it if you could point out exactly where I have violated the rules. >>While many dating clubs limit their arrangements to transactional relationships or dinner only (no intimacy) >Why does Universe have to conform to other dating clubs? >If that’s what you want, I think you should enjoy yourself at another dating club. >Universe has its own strengths. What do you believe are Universe’s strengths, Maezawa-san? Please be specific. Regardless of which dating club they join, I believe men who want dinner only make up an overwhelming minority. I also don’t believe that more than half of Universe’s male members are looking for dinner-only dates. My point is whether Universe is mass-producing B-type and C-type women who are secretly dinner-only (no intimacy), and as a result, whether more than half of the male members are having to struggle unnecessarily when selecting a type. For the record, I joined Universe because it has a large number of registered women and provides videos. >There are also women who say, “I work in the adult entertainment industry, but I registered with Universe because I want to go on dinner dates.” Is that information about those female members listed on the website for male members? If you know that a woman is a sex worker but do not disclose it, I have to question whether that is appropriate. Which specific member number does she have? I’d like to know. >Even if you talk about everything according to the standards for adult relationships, you have not explained the correlation with relationship-type fraud. >To determine whether it is truly fraud, >please properly go on dinner dates. >There is no specific standard for the number of times, but There are women who have gone on four or more dinner dates. According to one such woman, a staff member told her to claim B-type because she would not receive offers otherwise. She has already left the club, but she registered in June 2016. She said she was introduced by a friend who was registered with Universe, and that this friend advised her that it would be difficult to keep things going with dinner only, so she should have an adult relationship about once every ten dates. Is your standard ten or more dates, Maezawa-san? >>Regarding the definition of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) >There is no point in bringing discussions from social media here. >Within Universe, there are relationship types so that there is no need to consider the definition of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). >Since there are relationship types, there is no point in debating whether papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) means dinner only or an adult relationship. I am raising this issue because there is a significant discrepancy between those relationship types and the way they are actually presented. What I am saying is that staff members are steering women toward particular relationship types and misclassifying them far too often. This is not a debate; it is a proposal for improvement. >If Japanese is difficult for you, please ask the staff at your branch. >I’m sure they will explain it properly. Your Japanese is excellent this time, Maezawa-san. Sometimes I don’t understand something, and I’ll let you know when that happens. Setting the rules aside, do you, Maezawa-san, believe that it is inappropriate to invite an A-type or B-type woman to an adult relationship on the same day? I would also like to hear from Representative Kida and the other staff members. This is a question.
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I’ll answer as Maezawa from the president’s office. > Is there a clearly written rule stating that Universe women with Type B profiles must never be invited to an adult relationship? I’m not particularly fond of people turning everything into “rules.” Since human beings are capable of communicating, ideally, if someone says, “You should probably stop because that makes the other person uncomfortable,” the response should be, “Oh, really? Do other people feel the same way? In that case, I should correct myself.” That would be the ideal world. In reality, though, some people think, “If it’s not in the rules, I’m allowed to do it,” or, “Even if I’m causing trouble, it’s not written in the rules, so I can do whatever I want.” Then all you can do is hurriedly add new rules afterward or ask that person to leave. I don’t like places that are full of rules. There may not be a specific rule, but an ordinary person simply refrains from doing things that make others uncomfortable. Perhaps someone who can consistently do what any decent person should do is what we call a gentleman. Going back to the rules, Universe’s membership requirements for male members explicitly state that they must be gentlemen. If a man pressures a woman who intends to have dinner only on the first day and then part ways into an adult relationship (intimate), and she gives feedback that she was uncomfortable, then he has made her uncomfortable and is therefore not behaving like a gentleman. That constitutes a violation of the rules and membership terms, making him subject to disciplinary action. If there were other egregious incidents as well, we might consider the situation comprehensively and terminate his membership. Since this would be a clear violation of the membership terms, I believe it would be difficult to overturn the decision, regardless of whether he filed a lawsuit or took any other action. > What do you think are Universe’s strengths, Mr. Maezawa? Please be specific. This wording… Is this the same person again? (laughs) Well, whoever it is, I don’t mind as long as it’s a normal question. More importantly, what made you think Universe was a good fit and decide to become a member? If you didn’t see anything good about it, you would have already left. > There are also women who have gone on four or more dinner dates. If you’re using a woman who registered in 2016 as a specific example, that contradicts what you said in your previous question: “In my experience, until about two years ago, most Type B arrangements developed into adult relationships on the same day, but at Universe now…” Please remember what you were actually talking about. > I’m saying this because there is a significant discrepancy between the stated dating type and the actual situation. I don’t understand how this relates to your question about the definition of dating types and papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). What exactly are you saying is related? If you want to discuss dating types, I don’t think there’s any need to ask Universe about the definition of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). You haven’t explained how dating types relate to the definition of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan). > Staff leading women toward particular dating types This is something that wasn’t mentioned last time. Rather than revealing additional details little by little, please include everything from the beginning. Otherwise, the point of the discussion becomes blurred, and we may eventually lose track of what we were talking about. Also, if you’re claiming that staff were steering women toward a particular type, please specify which branch and which staff member interviewed the woman in question. If you’re reluctant to post that information here, please file a complaint directly with the branch. You should have a designated branch, and that branch serves as the point of contact for all individual cases. We will investigate the facts and take corrective action as soon as they are confirmed. > It’s inappropriate to invite Type B or Type A women into an adult relationship on the same day. I believe inviting a Type A woman into an adult relationship on the same day is inappropriate. With Type B, however, I think it’s fine if the conversation is along the lines of: “Not for today, but perhaps sometime in the future…” If, during that conversation, it becomes clear that she actually wants to be invited that day, then I suppose proceeding on the same day could be acceptable. But suddenly saying something like, “How much would it take for you to go to a hotel today?” is not appropriate. If a man wants to move into an adult relationship that day, he should simply make an offer to a Type C or Type D woman. I don’t understand why he would specifically make an offer to a Type B woman and then invite her on the same day. That would mean he is a male member who hasn’t considered the dating types at all. Please make sure you properly recognize and understand the dating types. > As a result, aren’t more than half of the men having an unnecessarily difficult time selecting the right type? I believe someone also described this as an act of damaging the other person’s relative credibility through subjective assertions without objective evidence… Please provide objective evidence that more than half of the men are struggling. > Is your standard, Mr. Maezawa, ten or more times? I believe I wrote that after four meetings, most people would think the dating type was different. Please read what I wrote carefully instead of skimming it before commenting. If you did read it carefully but the text was blurry and the 4 looked like a 10, you should probably buy a pair of glasses.
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I’m It’s Me, a male member. Whether she’s Type D or Type C, if a man doesn’t fall within a woman’s strike zone, the relationship won’t progress no matter how many dates they go on. Even among Type D women, including those who are about 99% on the “transactional relationship” side, there will still be that 1% of men who can’t develop things into a relationship. Naturally, Type C women have a lower rate of progressing into a relationship than Type D women, so there will always be a certain percentage of men who don’t get that far. That’s just the way it is. Whatever her type, a woman has the right to choose too. Whether a woman is Type C or Type D, if the man who made the offer ends up in the minority who “can’t move things forward,” he may take it as a “dating-type scam.” I can understand why he’d feel that way, to some extent. But before blaming the woman and calling it a “dating-type scam,” or blaming the staff for failing to see through it, I think it’s worth first considering whether the questioner might have played a part in what happened. What do you think? If, when trying to progress to an adult relationship (intimate) with a Type B woman on the first date, the questioner failed to notice that she was uncomfortable or showed a lack of sensitivity, then both Type C and Type D women would probably pick up on that pretty quickly. It seems to me, It’s Me, that this may be why he can’t progress to an adult relationship even after several dates with Type C women.
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No staff member wants to deal with an annoying old-timer who’s been registered for five years. Please hurry up, find a good person, continue seeing them, and graduate. That’s all I wish for. From the club’s perspective too, men who’ve been around forever and have to keep making offer after offer are unnecessary. The best word-of-mouth advertising is having lots of attractive members—both men and women—who continue seeing each other. If men who can’t maintain relationships just keep lingering around, word-of-mouth referrals from new women will dry up, which becomes a real problem for the club… From a male member, Paper Airplane.
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