Are papas who try to pay your allowance as a salary or business expense being stingy?
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One papa has offered to hire me at his company and assign me simple clerical work, paying me a monthly salary of ¥300,000 plus ¥100,000 in cash allowance. He also says he’ll rent an apartment for me under the company’s name and let me use a car purchased under the company’s name. Is he being stingy?
If we break up, I’d lose everything, so it would make it harder to leave even if I started feeling unhappy with him, wouldn’t it...?
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To determine whether he’s being cheap, you’d first have to define what “cheap” means.
What matters most is whether you can actually trust him.
If you agree to work for his company, you’ll have to hand over all your personal information, which could leave you vulnerable to blackmail later.
For example, he might say, “My accountant got suspicious, so could you wait until next month?” and then keep putting off your allowance for a couple of months. Once you start feeling that something isn’t right, a woman claiming to be his wife may suddenly appear and demand compensation.
I suspect it could be a setup involving his wife, but since you’ve given the company your real name and all your information, it could become a serious hassle.
There are all kinds of risks to consider, so what matters is whether you can trust him. If you don’t have a relationship built on trust, I think it’s best to walk away.
As for whether he’s cheap, I think the real issue is probably that you want a normal allowance, aren’t comfortable with his proposal, and are wondering what to do.
If it feels strange to you, I think you should leave it alone.
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The asker may be an idiot for not appreciating how valuable that godsend of a man is—helping a woman in her 30s leave full-time papa-katsu behind. Apparently, it’s hard to make a fresh start after having a blank period on your résumé. Or so I hear.
I’m pretty supportive myself, but I wouldn’t go as far as hiring her. More than being afraid of the tax office, I know it would definitely ruin the atmosphere at work.
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Earning money is insanely hard. Besides, business owners don’t carry cash, so please cut them some slack.
Or try choosing a papa (a male supporter) who gives you only half what you’re getting now and won’t rent a place for you. Then see which one looks stingier.
Seriously, though, my papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) has been going so badly that I could cry. I’m in the worst luck cycle right now. Thank goodness I have my ace and queen.
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Whether he’s stingy or not, who cares? If he can claim it as a business expense, he sounds like the ultimate papa—providing an allowance, a car, and even housing.
If anything, you should be more worried about keeping him from getting bored and cutting you off. You could lose everything all at once and be left with nothing.
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Whether it’s treated as an expense or not, if the cash ends up in your hands, does it really matter?
The terms aren’t bad. He’s not giving you a house or a car. Compared with a pay-per-meeting papa like Fuu, he seems pretty generous.
If the relationship ends, the support might stop. That could happen even if the assets aren’t in the company’s name—as long as they’re in the papa’s name. So I guess it’s six of one, half a dozen of the other.
If the tax office investigates, you could face some risk too. So either date him if you’re willing to take that risk, or line up a few pay-per-meeting papas instead.
But what do I know? ^_^
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Here we go again with another question from someone just looking to stir things up.
How utterly pointless.
Personally, I don’t do this because I think it would be tax evasion rather than tax avoidance, but apparently there are men who do.
I’m only interested in women who have respectable careers, so I have no intention of bringing a partner’s work into my own company. Nor would I hire a mistress at my company—I don’t want to disrupt the workplace environment.
Whether someone is stingy depends on the individual, so there’s no point asking other people. Besides, what if he is stingy? If you think he’s cheap, he probably thinks you’re greedy and obsessed with money.
If you’re satisfied with the terms he’s offered, go along with it. If not, simply turn him down.
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I’m also a business owner, and that’s how I reduce my taxes to cover the allowance. If you don’t like it, you should simply end things promptly.
I don’t make women employees or do anything under my company’s name because I don’t want them to know about my own company, but I completely understand where that papa (a male supporter) is coming from.
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Making her an employee of his own company and paying her allowance as a salary, putting her up in an apartment rented under the company’s name, lending her a company car—in other words, charging these things as business expenses—is actually pretty common when it’s an owner-run business. Apparently, though, some people get grilled during a tax audit and end up deeply embarrassed.
So I don’t think it necessarily means he’s especially stingy.
As for why it’s hard to break up, that’s only natural if she’s that dependent on him—it has little to do with whether the expenses are charged to the company. Even if she lived in an apartment the papa rented, drove his car, and received all her allowance in cash directly from him, breaking up would still mean losing all of it.
Personally, I don’t like putting private expenses through a company, so I’ve never done it. But business owners who are particularly focused on tax savings often do all sorts of things like that.
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