I’m always wondering this when I see questions from women about receiving low allowances: if every man who offered to meet you only offered around 50,000 yen per meeting, don’t you think you should work on improving yourself? As some questioners and Aya have apparently said, fewer people offer 50,000 yen than you might think. I assume high-paying arrangements are only a small portion too, but I also think pay-per-meeting arrangements at 50,000 yen are just a small minority.
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It makes me feel sad to think that some women on the Q&A site are getting intimate for such low allowances.
Isn’t it unnecessary to sell yourself so cheaply?
If I were in a position where men were offering me 50,000 yen or less, I think I would have either worked harder on myself or decided that this wasn’t the right place for me and quit the club long ago.
Do the people answering questions on this site give their answers assuming that 50,000 yen per meeting is the norm?
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Allowance is something both parties should agree on within a range that feels manageable for each of them.
The questioner says they won’t date anyone for less than 50,000 yen, but from their position, they can say whatever they want.
The respondent is speaking on the understanding that they won’t post anything untrue.
As a rule, I offer one monthly pay-per-meeting arrangement per woman at 50,000 yen, but I’ve only parted ways with about 10% of those who wanted 60,000 yen or more.
Lastly, you use the phrase “selling yourself cheaply,” but selling something means accepting that it may be treated in ways you dislike.
The buyer is free to do whatever they want with something they’ve purchased, right?
Even if things were done “raw” or you were filmed, strictly speaking, you couldn’t complain if you were selling yourself. If you’re willing to sell yourself, isn’t even 60,000 yen or more still selling yourself cheaply?
Allowance is about how both people feel, so even if it’s only 10,000 yen, I don’t think it’s selling yourself cheaply as long as both parties are satisfied with the arrangement.
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The discussions about allowance are always lively, and I enjoy reading them, so I thought I’d share my own thoughts as well.
As I see it, this is a dating club, so the basic premise is that people are actually dating. Of course, since it involves adults dating, an adult relationship (intimate) may happen too. I understand that discussions about pay-per-meeting arrangements and so on are based on everyone already understanding that.
That said, I personally think the allowance amount can be whatever works.
If someone feels the allowance is too low, they can simply choose to continue seeing the person without an adult relationship, or decline the relationship altogether.
When people start using confusing expressions like “she’s offering herself for such a small allowance,” “buying and selling,” “just playing around,” or “making money,” I feel the true nature of the relationship gets obscured.
A relationship should be enjoyable and beneficial for both people. As long as both the man and the woman have an enjoyable, mutually beneficial relationship that matches the allowance amount, I don’t see why there should be any problem. What do you think?
Also, since relationships at a dating club are based on receiving an allowance, the amount can become quite substantial once the relationship continues for two or three years.
The greater the support someone receives, the closer and more intimate they seem to become—even when there’s a large age gap between the two partners.
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As I said earlier, other people are other people. You’re you, and that’s perfectly fine. You should decide your own worth for yourself.
It may sound harsh, but it comes down to the balance between supply and demand. Your value is determined by your overall appeal—your looks, figure, personality, and so on.
The number of offers women receive isn’t unlimited; there’s a limit. Your perspective will likely depend on how much allowance you want.
Women who receive lots of offers can afford to be confident and set their terms firmly.
But if you receive fewer offers, where will you set your value? Will you quit papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) and find another way to make money?
It’s up to each individual what they choose to think.
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I’m seriously fed up.
Depending on the person, my allowance ranges from 30,000 yen per month to 30,000–100,000 yen per meeting.
There’s no such thing as a “standard” amount.
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There’s something called the “Carlos religion” on Universe.
It’s a terrifying cult that embraces male chauvinism. Its followers demand beauty, youth, and a good personality—in other words, everything—from women, while pushing around bizarre, nonsensical logic like:
“Any woman asking for more than 5 is obsessed with money.”
“Anyone saying the allowance is high is a liar! We don’t actually pay allowances like that!”
“When you ask a woman what she wants, she says 5.”
I mean, seriously. If you ask the woman how much allowance she wants, you’ve already failed as a papa (a male supporter). Isn’t it the man’s job to risk being embarrassed? Just state the amount first! What, do you not have any balls? It’s truly disgusting. They make women feel embarrassed and then casually claim, “I’m kind to women.”
Even if she really wants 7, she has to name a lower amount than she wants because she’s afraid the Carlos religion will label her greedy. Their thinking is so petty, narrow-minded, and selfish.
Terrifyingly, they’re also spreading their evangelism to TheSalon, and the going allowance rates there are dropping rapidly, just like on Universe.
If you don’t have much money, then an allowance of 5 is perfectly fine. But followers of the Carlos religion pretend to be wealthy.
In other words, it’s a new religion operating on full-blown Jani-ism: “What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine.”
The PJ girls are really suffering because of the Carlos religion, which keeps steering allowances lower and lower.
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Yes, as I mentioned earlier, I first ask women whether they’re open to an adult relationship (intimate) and what allowance they’re looking for. More than 70% have said 50,000 yen.
A little over 10% say they’re open to whatever I decide or ask me to state my preferred amount first. The remaining roughly 10% ask for 60,000 to 100,000 yen.
I’ve also been able to continue arrangements with several women who receive a fair number of offers.
So, I believe 50,000 yen is the standard amount women generally expect.
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I assume people answering questions here are speaking from their own experiences, but I feel that everyone is different, and you should do what works for you.
That said, I do end up commenting on allowances myself, because I hear from women who are genuinely unhappy with the allowance they’re receiving.
I understand wanting to put up with it and continue the arrangement, but it makes me think they might as well state the allowance they actually want. It’s a bit contradictory, I know.
Still, everyone is different, so I just hope people make choices they won’t regret.
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