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Sep 9, 2021 04:08
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I have no experience, so I’d appreciate any advice.
Because of my work, I travel domestically two or three times a month.
I’m looking for someone who would accompany me on these business trips (even just for the day) and spend time with me.
I’m not comfortable seeing multiple people, so I’d prefer to have one regular partner.
Would it be difficult to make this arrangement in exchange for a fixed monthly allowance of around ¥200,000?
Of course, I would cover transportation and any other expenses separately.
Would it be difficult to ask the person to stop seeing anyone else while dating me, since I’m worried about illnesses, under these terms?
If that would be difficult, what kind of terms might make this agreeable for both of us?
I have a lot of questions, but thank you in advance.
7 answers
Other
I’m Nana Ayase♡
Are you looking for a secretary who can also be your mistress?
If she’s able to accompany you on business trips, you’re probably looking for a woman who’s currently unemployed and has experience working as a secretary.
I’m currently unemployed and have secretary experience myself, but I doubt I’d be to your liking—or rather, I’d probably be ruled out because of my age.
To find someone like that, I recommend joining first and asking the staff. I’m sure they’ll look for someone for you.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I’ll answer as Maezawa from the president’s office.
> I’d like you to stop seeing anyone else while dating me, because I’m worried about things like illness.
That’s the problem.
Universe’s rules prohibit telling women to leave the club. So you can’t exactly say, “I want you to stop seeing other men, but you can remain registered and continue accepting offers as usual,” can you?
If that’s the case, I think it would be difficult to impose this condition on a woman you met through Universe.
To begin with, some women receive over ¥1 million a month in allowance—though that’s the combined amount from multiple papas. If she compares that ¥1 million with your ¥200,000 purely in numerical terms, there’s no reason for her to choose the ¥200,000.
The question is whether you offer something that makes her want to choose your ¥200,000 over ¥1 million.
And if you’re really afraid of illness, the safest option is not to do anything at all. If you don’t do anything, you won’t get sick.
Most things have both advantages and disadvantages, so it’s normal to consider both before deciding how to act.
With that in mind, if you want to impose your own preferences on a woman, you need to offer her a substantial benefit in return—such as ¥1 million a month in allowance, for example.
If you can’t offer that much, I don’t think you should impose your preferences on her.
In that case, if you’re worried about illness, you could suggest that you both get tested every month, with you covering the cost, and use protection.
That seems like the best approach.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
I’m sure there are women who naturally come to that point during the relationship, rather than proposing it from the very beginning.
Since I joined, I’ve always focused on seeing just one woman. At first, she was seeing several men, but those relationships eventually ended, leaving just me.
The difficult part is on the man’s side. You may feel like making offers to other women, but the real question is whether you can resist that temptation.
Choosing the right woman is important, too. Since women compare you with the other men who have approached them, I think you need to deal with them knowing that you’re being compared.
You also have to consider her personality, social circle, family situation, attitude toward the relationship, age, and so on, and make an overall judgment when choosing.
Even after choosing someone, we’ve built the relationship by repeatedly discussing how we wanted things to work.
When you keep doing that, I feel that even with an age gap of over 40 years, you can develop a comfortable connection and continue seeing each other for a long time. That said, we’ve agreed that she’ll stop if she gets a boyfriend.
We’ve been seeing each other for three years now, and lately she’s been taking the initiative in suggesting dates and confidently walking into hotels or restaurants first, so things are going great(笑)
Other
I’m Aya, a female member.
I generally prefer monthly arrangements, and that’s usually how things end up working out for me. However, only one person has ever suggested a monthly arrangement immediately after meeting me. He was such a genuinely nice person—almost too trusting, like he might be easily taken advantage of—that I decided to trust him and go along with it. His clean, well-groomed appearance was also a major plus. He’s still one of my favorite papas, and we’ve been seeing each other for several years now.
That said, this was an exception. In most cases, things became monthly arrangements after six months to a year, because it takes at least that long to figure out whether you’re truly compatible.
Women in particular are often good at “appearing” compatible—smiling pleasantly and even putting on an act in bed. For many, that can be a survival strategy, too. So I think men need to take the time to assess things carefully rather than assuming the compatibility is mutual.
Also, if you’re offering 200,000 yen a month and expect her to accompany you on every business trip, it would probably be difficult for a woman with a regular daytime job, such as an office worker or student. If she’s expected to come along every time, regardless of whether it’s a weekday or weekend, she’ll likely hesitate and decide it’s too much.
That means you’d be more likely to end up with a professional papa-katsu woman who has a flexible schedule and other papas—which isn’t acceptable to you, right?
Still, I think there are occasional women without other papas who might be open to it. How about asking the staff to carefully select and make offers to women such as fourth-year university students who have already secured jobs and have plenty of free time, or women who happen to be between jobs?
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Hikōki, a male member.
I think it depends on you, the person asking the question.
It’s possible if the woman wants the same thing, but there’s also a chance she may say, “Sorry, not with you.”
What you’re asking for isn’t particularly difficult.
> “When dating me, I’d like you to stop seeing anyone else, because I’m worried about things like diseases.”
Even without being asked, quite a few women already think that way. I don’t think you need to bring it up yourself.
> @Makeotoko
This is a place to answer the questioner, and Universe is a dating club based on free romantic relationships. I think it’s better not to make such an overt connection between adult relationships (intimate) and money, which they deliberately keep implicit because explicitly facilitating prostitution could lead to legal action.
🏅 プロおぢ。ほんとはプロパパと名乗りたいけど名乗るほどの実力がない名古屋の汚っさんです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m the “loser guy” currently trying to offer Kazu-san a coffee date through Maezawa-san.
① How many adult dates does a fixed 200,000 yen cover?
② When traveling together, can I pay the equivalent of one adult date?
Since “being exclusive to me” means that I’m your only source of income, my answer may be a little harsh.
First, regarding ①, I’d limit the adult dates to a maximum of three per month. Calculated on a pay-per-meeting basis, that comes to a little over 60,000 yen per adult date. There may be women willing to accept those terms.
However, if you try to meet four times a month, she’ll probably find another man, even while telling you, “I’m exclusive to you.”
As for ②, I think it would be fine if you can pay an allowance of 60,000 yen or more as an extra payment when traveling for work.
If you want her to be exclusive to you, 200,000 yen a month is truly the bare minimum from a woman’s perspective. If that’s all you can offer, you need to reduce the number of meetings—no more than three per month—and make her think:
“This papa’s terms are good enough that I might be willing to be exclusive to him.”
Personally, when we stay overnight, I pay the adult-relationship allowance without requiring an adult relationship. Staying overnight is extremely demanding for a woman. The hours are incredibly long, and she’ll be under maximum stress because she doesn’t want the man to see her without makeup.
So when we stay overnight, I pay the adult allowance without expecting an adult relationship. After she removes her makeup, I keep the room almost completely dark. If she initiates an adult relationship, I give her an additional adult-date allowance toward dawn.
In other words:
- Overnight stay with an adult relationship: allowance equivalent to two adult dates
- Overnight stay without an adult relationship: allowance equivalent to one adult date
During a woman’s birthday month, I let her choose wherever she wants to go, cover all actual travel expenses, and pay an allowance equivalent to one adult date per night, without expecting an adult relationship.
*Of course, I try not to meet her on her actual birthday whenever possible. It’s only considerate, since she probably wants to spend it with her real boyfriend.*
I believe an exclusive fixed arrangement is essentially the price of a woman’s life. I have only one exclusive partner, and I pay her a fixed 700,000 yen plus extras. We have an adult relationship no more than twice a month, and there are even months when we don’t meet at all.
So when you do meet, set a maximum number of meetings, but pay the agreed fixed amount even in months when you don’t meet her once. Since you’re essentially buying her life, I believe that’s only proper consideration from a man—and that’s what I actually do.
The payments may be difficult, but I put all that energy into my work. “I’m going to earn money so I can make this girl happy.” That’s a healthy motivation, isn’t it?
A~Dまで一通りオファーの経験あり、多くても月1程度でLINEはスケジュール調整のみ、スマートに無理なく長期交際するスタイルです。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Dai, a male member.
It depends on the negotiation, but for some women, I don’t think it’s necessarily impossible.
Try dating several women and look for someone who’s willing to accept those terms.
That said, I recommend proposing a monthly arrangement only after you’ve had an adult relationship (intimate) several times and feel that you’re compatible.
However, you shouldn’t make it a condition from the start that she stop seeing other men.
From her perspective, there’s always the anxiety of not knowing when your relationship with her might end.
If you continue seeing each other for at least a year and she comes to trust and genuinely like you as a person, you could make the proposal then. She may even agree to stop seeing the others.