I’m the person who asked about being asked to enter into a mistress arrangement at the first meeting.
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After reading everyone’s replies, I decided to have tea before considering an adult relationship, at least for now.
As I listened to him, it turned out that “5 or more” meant a monthly amount. He said he was thinking of 2 this time.
Since that was far too low, I told him that I already have another papa (a male supporter) and receive 5 or more on a pay-per-meeting basis. He looked absolutely shocked, haha.
But doesn’t this wording sound like he’s saying he’ll prepare 5 or more this time?
“Let’s not make an arrangement yet, but would you meet me one more time? I’ll prepare 5 or more as a thank-you.”
Am I just too focused on money and letting it cloud my judgment, or has my Japanese become that bad?
Since I couldn’t accept those terms, we parted ways after tea. I only accepted reimbursement for my actual transportation costs and went home.
Sorry for turning this into a rant.
My question is: Since this was about a second date, would my feedback still be accepted? I’d like to know how it would come across to the staff.
I’m a male member who always ends up losing out.
How about saying sweetly, “You mean 20,000 yen is just for transportation, right? Thank you so much for giving me that much just for travel expenses♪ I’m so happy♪”?
Though I guess you’ve already parted ways with her…
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I’m Dai, a male member.
It was a good thing you had tea together before moving on to an adult relationship (intimate)!
Every now and then, I see papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) features in magazines saying that some people meet on a monthly arrangement for surprisingly low allowances.
On apps and the like, you also hear from people who meet for an adult relationship (intimate) for 20,000 yen or more.
I’m not saying the person asking this question is focused only on money, but there are also people who are looking for that kind of arrangement.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
> “Setting the arrangement aside, would you like to meet one more time? I’ll prepare an allowance of at least 50,000 yen.”
I agree that this can certainly be read as referring to payment for meeting one more time.
As Maezawa-san pointed out, the club probably doesn’t get involved in the amount of the allowance, so I think it’s fine to calmly write that you’re dissatisfied with the amount.
However, I don’t think the amount a woman requests should affect her rating. The club doesn’t get involved in the amount she asks for, after all. So, for example, I don’t think it’s appropriate for a man to give a woman a poor rating simply because she requested an allowance of 300,000 yen.
As for ratings, I think a low rating should only be given when a woman was misled by a message that gave her the wrong impression about the allowance.
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I’m Aya, a female member.
What a strange member… Leave feedback and move on to the next one. I can’t understand why you’d accept a high-risk mistress-type arrangement for just ¥20,000. Just forget about him.
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I’m a male member who goes by Paper Airplane.
Your interpretation is correct.
I think it would be best to simply forget about it and spend your private time doing something worthwhile.
I understand how you feel, but there’s really no need to leave a record yourself saying things like, “I was offered an allowance of 2,” or “We couldn’t agree on the allowance.”
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Maezawa from the Club Director’s Office here—I’ll answer this as well.
> But couldn’t this wording be taken to mean that he’s offering five or more this time?
I think pretty much everyone would interpret it that way.
Still, it’s a good thing you didn’t go straight to a hotel.
> Regarding a second date, would it be okay to submit feedback after that?
Yes, feedback after the second date is fine.
However, just because he proposed “2,” the club doesn’t get involved in whether that amount is high or low, so I don’t think it will negatively affect the man’s impression of you.
That said, the staff may still think, “This guy only offers 2—what a problem.” They might even set things up so that newly registered women are hidden from him at first, to prevent him from making offers to good candidates.
That’s why feedback is helpful: it lets us know that the man offered 2, or that when he said 5, he meant it as a monthly amount.
However, if you simply say, “He was awful because he only offered 2,” we’ll have to respond, “Well… the two of you are free to decide the terms of your relationship.”
So I think it would be best to give your feedback in the following spirit:
“This happened during the meeting, so I wanted to share it for reference.”
Oh, but for the rating section, I think you should absolutely give him the lowest rating—-2 across the board.
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