Sometimes, people propose terms like, “The first time will be ○ (usually 2 or 3), but I’ll increase it as we continue seeing each other.” These offers feel suspicious and I can’t bring myself to trust them, so I always turn them down.
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Are there any men here who offer terms like this—starting low but increasing later? Please exclude cases where you simply came to want to give more as the relationship progressed.
And are there any women here who have accepted terms like this? Again, please exclude cases where the amount increased naturally as you continued seeing each other.
I’d like to understand why someone wouldn’t go all out from the beginning. I’m not saying they have to hand over their entire fortune—I just want to know why they don’t set the average amount they ultimately intend to give me from the start.
I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer as well.
I think anyone who goes out of their way to say they’ll give you more allowance later is suspicious. In other words, they know the current allowance is low and are just trying to gloss over it.
Men almost never increase it afterward. If they do, it’s usually because they’ve really taken a liking to the woman.
So normally, they wouldn’t say from the start that they’ll increase the allowance later.
The fact that you found him fishy makes me think you already have a good eye for sizing men up.
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> Are there any male members who offer terms like this—“the allowance is low at first, but it’ll increase later”?
Not me.
I’ve never heard of that from either male or female members.
> I’d like to know why they don’t go all out from the start.
Probably a simple reason: they plan to start with the low allowance, then disappear before ever increasing it.
I can’t think of any other reason.
Normally, if you’re going to raise it, you’d start around the average and gradually increase it, right?
If you start at a discounted rate, even the MAX would probably only bring you up to the average. So I don’t really understand why they use the word “increase” in the first place.(^^; )
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I’m Dai, a male member.
I’ve never done anything like that.
As you said, the fact that they’re starting at 20,000–30,000 yen is already pretty suspicious. It sounds like the kind of offer you often see on apps.
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I’m a male member—a total loser.
I wouldn’t go as low as 2 or 3, but I also start by feeling out the allowance at first.
Recently, I’ve standardized everything at 10 to start. If a girl becomes a favorite, I gradually increase it, and sometimes I switch to a monthly arrangement.
Come to think of it, there was only one girl I entered into a monthly arrangement with before starting an adult relationship. We’re still close.
She was unbelievably cute, and I didn’t want any other papas (male supporters) getting near her. With everyone else, I tell them, “It’s totally fine if you find another papa.”
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I’m Hikōki, a male member.
First impressions matter in everything.
They shouldn’t be rude right from the start. If they are, I think you have to assume that’s how little they value you.
That said, I do think that neither men nor women can really determine a fair amount—“This should be enough” for the woman, or “This is what I’d like to pay” for the man—until they’ve had an adult relationship (intimate) and confirmed their compatibility.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
I’ve never presented terms like that. Just as you said, I feel women would be uncomfortable being told something like that at a first meeting.
I can only speculate, but I think people who present those kinds of terms assume that women won’t give their all from the start.
In reality, as the relationship continues, they often reveal skills they had kept hidden in bed. Personally, though, I think bringing things like that into the discussion only makes things more complicated. So I use a fixed allowance: if I don’t feel satisfied, I simply stop meeting her; if I’m very satisfied, I increase how often we meet.
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I haven’t had that happen.
I’d really like someone to check whether he actually increases it over time. But I feel like he’d stop responding after meeting a few times at 20, before ever raising it.
If everyone keeps turning him down, he’ll eventually give up. But if someone occasionally agrees, he might keep making the same offer, hoping to find that one person again.
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