Maezawa from the CEO’s office here—I’ll answer this one too.
A lot of men have spent their lives in a world of constant negotiations.
You get a quote from a vendor, and even if they’ve already included a discount, it’s perfectly normal to ask, “Could you take a little more off?”
And the person preparing the quote may also anticipate that, especially with an initial estimate, and leave themselves a little room to negotiate.
Of course, when someone keeps demanding further discounts even though both sides should be able to reach an agreement, you start thinking, “What’s with this person? I can’t lower it any further.”
That’s how people who’ve lived in a world of negotiation tend to think—negotiating is simply part of the process.
So ideally, if a woman wants an allowance of ¥50,000, she could ask for ¥70,000 as a negotiating strategy—not that it’s really much of a “strategy.”
However, some gentlemanly men see this as completely separate from business, and the moment you say ¥70,000, they may decide it’s not going to work and end the meeting.
That means you need to figure out which type the other person is, but it’s difficult to do that within an hour of meeting them.
So the safest approach may be to state the exact amount you want and refuse to negotiate if they try.
Alternatively, you could gamble on the assumption that many people will negotiate. If you want ¥50,000, ask for ¥70,000, negotiate from there, and eventually say:
“Well, I suppose ¥50,000 will do.”
The other person will be happy, thinking they successfully negotiated.
In any case, this whole issue is pretty complicated.
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
> What are people who negotiate their allowance thinking?
That’s a good question.
I see allowance negotiations as a process where both sides state what they want and try to find a compromise that works for both of them.
If both people are confident in their positions, I think it’s perfectly fine to say, “There’s no room for negotiation.”
I’m Dai, a male member.
So you’re talking about negotiating a lower allowance.
If someone offers less than you’re hoping for, why not just say goodbye? You have every right to walk away.
Personally, I’ve never negotiated a reduction, but men who do it probably do so because it doesn’t make them feel empty.
I understand feeling disappointed, but I find women who put less effort into sex because of the allowance amount rather off-putting.
I’m Fuu, a column writer.
If that’s how you feel, I think you should simply decline if someone tries to negotiate with you.
Personally, I think it’s fine to negotiate. I always tell them my amount upfront. Some women have negotiated by saying they’d like a little more. When they explained themselves clearly and I was satisfied, I agreed.
If you’re being asked to negotiate too often, there may also be an issue with the terms you’ve set.
I’m Aya, a female member.
I’m guessing the questioner is a woman, and a man tried to reduce her allowance.
I think an allowance is the price a man puts on his own sexual desire. Men who pay women a lot believe their desire is worth that much.
On the other hand, a man who tries to haggle is basically estimating that his own desire isn’t worth very much. From our side, we have no obligation to entertain desire that he considers so worthless, so I think it’s perfectly fine to turn him down.
