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Jun 5, 2021 04:00
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I’ve met all kinds of people, from Standard to Black. A few arrangements lasted about a year, but I still haven’t met anyone truly special.
The other day, I went on a date with a Black, Type C woman and we went to a hotel, but I felt something was off. I’d never felt that way before, but being naked with a woman I’d only known for about two hours—and barely knew at all—didn’t sit right with me. We made plans to meet again, but it wasn’t because of anything she had done. I just felt, personally, that this wasn’t for me.
The next day, I stayed over at the home of a woman I’ve been seeing for about four years—someone I met outside this club and unrelated to any app. While showering alone, I realized I was even more aroused than the day before. Even though we meet almost every week and have been intimate countless times, I felt genuinely fulfilled and satisfied that day.
At first, I thought maybe it was simply physical compatibility. But with her, it took time for things to develop. I also realized that I had become deeply involved in her life—not just financially, but through her separation and divorce, finding a job, and her relationship with her new boyfriend. That made me realize that, for me, the depth of our involvement may matter more than compatibility alone.
Looking back, I think the reason I was able to maintain long-term relationships with some women from this club was because I had played some meaningful role at a turning point in their lives—whether they were virgins or needed advice about sensitive issues at home.
In the end, I realized that simply meeting for two hours, being intimate, and enjoying a brief moment of pleasure left me feeling more melancholy than fulfilled. I thought, “I’m done with this.”
I may meet someone in the future whom I become deeply involved with, but it seems strange to do papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) expecting that to happen. So I’m genuinely unsure whether to renew.
Honestly, I used to think that at my age, club dates were probably the only way someone would see me. But over the past three years, I’ve developed a deep, non-financial relationship with one woman in her twenties—unrelated to the club—and the twenty-something woman I mentioned earlier, whom I’ve been seeing for four years, has even said that she intends to continue our relationship as before, even if she marries her current boyfriend.
So I’m starting to feel that it may be okay to quit. Some people may say I’m using the club incorrectly or thinking about it the wrong way, but I feel that, for me, it’s probably time to move on.
I’d appreciate hearing your opinions, whether you think I should renew anyway or encourage me to keep going.
Thank you.
8 answers
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the President’s Office here as well.
> I’m thinking it may be okay to quit now.
If that’s how you feel, I think you’d be better off simply canceling your membership without renewing it.
A dating club is for meeting someone special, so I don’t think there’s any need to remain a member once you feel ready to quit.
If you later find yourself wanting to meet someone new again, you can always rejoin then.
🏅 パパ活歴7年目突入
彼氏/既婚/他パパ/セフレOK/全力応援
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Fuu, a columnist.
That’s a thought-provoking question. I believe everyone reaches a point when it’s time to leave the club.
If you feel the time is right, I think it’s perfectly fine to cancel your membership. And if life afterward starts to feel lacking and you find yourself craving a little excitement again, you can always rejoin.
How you use the club is entirely up to each member, so there’s no single right or wrong answer.
As for when I’ll retire, I imagine it’ll be when even medication can’t get me hard anymore, or when illness leaves me unable to get around. I want to stay active for as long as possible, so I’m doing my best with anti-aging(笑)
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a columnist.
I get it. I’m actually in that kind of mindset myself right now. My next column is about something similar too.
But you’re still continuing your relationship with that woman you’ve been seeing for four years while giving her an allowance, right? If so, what you’re doing is essentially the same as what you do through the club.
As long as you’re continuing a relationship that involves an allowance, it’s far too soon for you to enter that kind of mindset. You may feel like you’ve reached some sort of enlightened state, but that’s just an illusion born from very shallow training.
It simply shows how powerful an allowance can be. As long as money is involved, the value women see in you may be 80% allowance and 20% personality.
And I think you’ve probably realized that even with that woman in her twenties outside the club, the relationship wouldn’t last very long without an allowance.
Besides, at the root of it all, what we have is ultimately sexual desire. If that desire isn’t satisfied, we end up wanting intimacy badly enough to pay an allowance for it.
Try going two months without sex or masturbation, and limit your interactions with women to dinner dates only. Then see whether you can still think about things the same way you do now.
P.S.
Rereading your post, I’m wondering whether that four-year relationship is actually without an allowance too. If so, I apologize—I misunderstood. Honestly, I’m jealous, lol.
Other
I’m Nana Ayase, a female member.
It sounds like you’ve met someone wonderful—I’m jealous!
How old are you? Are the women you meet through the club always in their 20s? Why not try choosing someone closer to your own age for a change?
I’m sure there are some wonderful women in their 40s or around their 50s. Let yourself be embraced by their generosity and big-hearted love.
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m in Seattle.
Wherever you are, meeting someone you can truly connect with is one of life’s great ways to pass the time.
You may meet someone through a dating club, or you may not. If you have money to spare, it’s worth continuing.
At a club, you’re playing the game of meeting wonderful people.
Other
I’m Tetsu, a male club member.
If you were already dating a woman you met outside the club when you registered, why did you sign up for the club?
After reading your question, I got the impression that meeting women through the club has helped you notice more of the good qualities in the woman you’ve been dating for so long. In other words, perhaps the women you meet through the club have become points of comparison.
If that’s the case, you may be concerned that once you leave the club and no longer have anything to compare her to, the relationship might start to feel stagnant.
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Date◎Yume, a male member.
I’m with Kamihikōki!
> I’ve met all kinds of women. Some have continued for about a year, but I haven’t met anyone who really stands out.
I think the reason is probably that there’s no one who immediately feels like “the one.”
Whether the person in front of you is beautiful or fairly attractive, I believe that by getting to know them more deeply, they gradually become someone truly special to you.
Otherwise, I think dating would eventually become rather boring.
It might also be a good idea to take a break from the dating club for a while. You can always start again when you feel the need.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male club member, “Paper Airplane.”
I don’t think your way of looking at things is bad at all—just as you wrote.
Ideally, you’d be able to leave the club after a few years.
As a man, whether through the club or outside of it, being able to meet someone who becomes deeply involved in your life and maintain a relationship that lasts a lifetime is a wonderful thing.
And if you ever need it again, you can always come back to the club someday… I think that’s perfectly fine, too.
Um—actually, reading your post more carefully, I see your conclusion was that you realized you didn’t need the club after all, right??
That works, too.