Tips May 27, 2021 00:29

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I’m a male member who joined about two and a half years ago. At the time, the staff who interviewed me never mentioned the club’s rule about paying transportation expenses upfront for the first meeting. So for about the next year, I would give the women I made offers to their transportation money toward the end of the date, even when it was dinner only. I never received any particular complaints from the women. Later, I learned through this Q&A box—or somewhere else—that paying transportation expenses upfront was actually the rule, and I was shocked, thinking, “What? That was the rule?” I tried to make a point of paying upfront after that, but out of habit, I often forgot, especially with women I was seeing in an adult relationship from the first meeting. Since no one complained, I figured it was probably fine. But the general sentiment here seems to be that “men who don’t pay upfront are absolutely no good,” so even though I felt I was satisfying the women, I’ve started feeling depressed, wondering whether I’d actually been receiving negative feedback behind the scenes from time to time. My question is whether the club would really pass along that level of negative feedback to a member.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer too. > Let’s get back to sensible questions. Does that mean all those silly, vulgar questions up until now were from you? > Will the club give me that level of negative feedback? No. The end. > One of the instructions says, “Please eat before you come. Let’s take our time talking over tea.” > Doesn’t that contradict what you often say—that “Universe is a company that arranges dinner dates”? So it’s not a meal, then. You’re right—that is contradictory. Would “We’re a company that arranges introductions” have been better? Universe often responds to men’s complaints—or rather, requests. (笑) That said, most women are expecting a meal, so if you meet during lunchtime or dinnertime and then suggest tea, we get feedback saying they were disappointed. If you’re confident that you personally won’t receive that kind of feedback, you can give it a try. In the end, it depends on the man’s personality. Tea → hotel → meal If that’s the plan, there is a meal, so I don’t think you’ll receive negative feedback. And if she’s a Type D woman, there’s probably an even higher chance that she won’t complain. The safest option is to start with a meal.
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
Seattle. Seriously, who cares about the same question anymore? I recommend getting the allowance upfront whenever possible—especially if they tend to get drunk and forget. As long as they don’t forget, handing it over afterward is fine. If some idiot doesn’t pay, complain to the club.
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As I understand it, there originally wasn’t a rule about paying the allowance upfront, but after receiving a lot of feedback from women, it temporarily became the rule. Then, following feedback from men, it was changed to being based on a request. Personally, I’m fine either way, but every now and then someone gets drunk and genuinely forgets. Marika
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Hikōki, a male member. This is probably another fairly trivial question—or rather, nothing particularly important. I’m sure it’s a hassle for the club to keep giving feedback on every little thing… Personally, I’ve always preferred paying the transportation money and the allowance afterward, including for an adult relationship (intimate). That’s because I want it to be a gesture of appreciation, rather than simply an allowance. I also feel uncomfortable handing it over upfront. Of course, I understand why some men give a large amount upfront in professional services or the sex industry, since the more they pay, the better service they can expect. Even with a dating club, if you want to secure terms that are likely to result in a high level of satisfaction, paying upfront is clearly the safer option. On the other hand, when it comes to expressing your happiness, appreciation, and how much you like someone, giving it afterward just feels more natural to me. Also, once the woman has confirmed your compatibility and feels satisfied and comfortable, she’s less likely to be guarded or tense. The whole thing tends to unfold more naturally and relaxed, without her thinking, “Here comes another money-minded guy.” That said, I fully understand that this doesn’t apply to every man. Earlier, at the supermarket, I saw a man packing his groceries at the next counter. He wasn’t exactly ugly, but judging from his appearance and overall demeanor, I found myself thinking that most women would probably say no if he were a papa. So although my ideal is still to pay afterward, day by day I’m starting to feel that paying upfront may actually be the better approach.
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I’m Taro, a male member. So advancing the transportation money is actually a rule? I thought it was more of a “let’s do that” kind of thing. I’ll give it upfront when I can, but it depends on the situation. If we couldn’t get a private room, or if we’re in a private room but our bags are left some distance away, giving it upfront can feel awkward, so I’ll give it to her after the meal instead. Still, I do think it’s better to pay upfront whenever possible, since I sometimes forget. There have been times when a woman reminded me, but there have also been times when she forgot too, and I had to apologize over LINE after we parted ways. Your question is separate from the upfront payment issue, though. I think the club staff would tell you about any negative feedback if you asked them. I’ve asked before, too. That said, they don’t really give you as much information as you might hope.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. Thanks for your question. I believe the previous version of the membership terms was dated January 2019, and I remember it included the rule about paying transportation expenses in advance. So I assume that rule was introduced in that version. Because I always pay transportation expenses in advance, women are sometimes surprised and say things like, “This is the first time someone has paid my transportation expenses upfront.” Looking back at the feedback I received, there were times when two women a week reacted that way. Based on that, I’d guess that most men don’t pay in advance. So I think it’s unlikely that negative feedback was submitted for that reason. As for your question—“Would the club provide that level of negative feedback?”—they probably wouldn’t normally tell you. I haven’t been making many offers lately, so I haven’t asked recently. But when I was making offers frequently, I would ask the staff, “If I’ve received any negative feedback, please let me know so I can use it to improve.” If you ask like that, they might tell you.
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