I’m Kazu, a male member.
Interesting question. Let me think through how I came to use 50,000 yen as my baseline.
Before joining a dating club, the allowance I knew was typically offered for an adult relationship (intimate) with an individual woman I met through dating sites—around 15,000 to 30,000 yen. On dating sites, most women state the allowance they want, so there’s no need to think it through yourself.
I also used to visit soaplands, where the rates were around 20,000 to 120,000 yen, but that’s a completely different situation from a private arrangement, so I didn’t use it as a reference.
I was tired of the harsh atmosphere on dating sites and decided to join a dating club. It wasn’t hard to imagine that the allowance would be higher than on dating sites, so I vaguely assumed it would be at least 30,000 yen.
Also, if you Google “dating club allowance,” you’ll find plenty of pages discussing typical rates. They’re generally listed by membership tier, with figures such as 30,000–50,000 yen or 20,000–100,000 yen.
Then there’s this anonymous Q&A box. I ultimately decided whether to join Universe after reading through it carefully. Looking through the posts, I often saw the figure 50,000 yen.
After that, I made an offer and faced my first allowance negotiation. The first woman I approached was someone I felt belonged in the Black tier. At that moment, the words “Would 50,000 yen work for you?” came out naturally. I was nervous because it was my first offer and didn’t have the composure to ask what she wanted.
I probably blurted out 50,000 yen because it was more than on dating sites, within the range I’d seen in my Google searches, and a figure that came up frequently in the anonymous Q&A box.
She agreed, and from then on, I started using 50,000 yen as my baseline.
Since then, whenever I ask women about their allowance, over 90% say things like, “The app rate is 30,000 yen, so I’d prefer 50,000 if possible,” or simply, “50,000 yen.” That gave me confidence in using 50,000 yen as my standard.
As an aside, I think the rate charts you find through Google are probably inaccurate when they claim to be broken down by membership tier. I excluded Standard women from my sample because they said they were flexible, but among the Gold, Platinum, and Black women, 90% wanted 50,000 yen.
I think an allowance is the amount at which a woman feels, “If this man is willing to pay that much, I’m willing to see him.”
As for delivery-service rates, I mentioned soaplands above, but I think those belong to a completely different world from private arrangements. Dating clubs involve dating, while the adult-entertainment industry provides sexual services.
Even if you force a comparison, delivery services generally charge around 30,000–40,000 yen for two hours. If the woman receives half, that comes to 15,000–20,000 yen. On top of that, options such as anal sex or recording a video showing her face may cost an additional 5,000 yen each. That may be why some women agree to full-service encounters directly in exchange for money, calling it a tip.
At soaplands, two hours usually costs around 40,000–100,000 yen, so the woman’s share would probably be 20,000–60,000 yen.
It wouldn’t be appropriate to use the rates at ultra-luxury delivery services as a comparison. Likewise, if you bring up exceptionally high allowances in dating clubs, arrangements like that may exist too.
I’m Maezawa from the president’s office, and I’ll answer as well.
> Where did the original idea of five come from?
I think it varies from person to person.
Mac-san previously wrote in an answer that a staff member suggested “3 to 5,” so he chose the higher figure of 5. When I read that, I thought, “That staff member was pretty careless.”
If that staff member had said, “5 to 10,” I think Mac-san would have given everyone 10.
Seriously, haha.
Thinking about it that way, I sometimes wonder whether it’s actually a bad thing that Universe staff don’t say much during the initial membership interview.
It’s necessary to ensure the company doesn’t violate the law, so it’s a difficult area. And since men generally don’t like being told what to do, finding the right balance seems difficult too.
> At that escort service, they receive at least 120,000 yen for two hours, 170,000 yen for three hours, and 280,000 yen for five hours. That’s incredibly expensive, right?
You must work at a remarkably high-end escort service—that’s impressive.
I hear women usually receive only 50%, or 60% even at a good establishment, so that means the men are paying at least 240,000 yen for two hours, right?
Please tell the men at Universe, “Look, there are plenty of people paying 240,000 yen just to spend two hours getting affectionate with a woman.”
