Tips Mar 17, 2021 11:25

I’m a male member.

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Thank you for all your hard work, respondents. One question mentioned being shocked that it was only 50,000 yen, and I feel the same way. There are mainly opinions like that in the women’s questions, so I’d like to start there. Regardless of the amount, I’m a little shocked by women who say “only 50,000 yen.” I’ve been a member for quite a long time, but I feel that this Q&A section has developed a going rate that’s different from what it used to be. Women seem to misunderstand that, become confused by the gap, and ask a lot of questions that come across almost like complaints. It makes me feel that the club may only be interested in attracting women. My question is: shouldn’t the questions be considered a little more carefully before being posted? I suppose I’ll be left out for writing something like this.
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Fuu
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Fuu, a columnist. The whole allowance issue is complicated. There seems to be a perception among papa-katsu girls that dating clubs have lots of wealthy papas, offer higher allowances than apps, and let them have a better experience. That’s probably why cute, beautiful, high-quality girls continue to join. But if allowances at dating clubs end up being on the same level as those on apps, wouldn’t the clubs’ advantages and safety fall apart? Since club activities have already become a part of my life, I really don’t want to see the Universe system collapse. Absolutely not. I understand that male members want to enjoy a good experience at the most reasonable price possible. I wonder if the going rates for allowances are formed in some vague gray area through all kinds of opinions from both men and women, with the final outcome depending on effort, luck, and negotiating skills. As for the question box, one of Universe’s strengths is that it openly shares all kinds of information without hiding things. Except for defamatory or otherwise criminal content, perhaps by publishing people’s opinions, occasionally causing an uproar(笑), the service can gradually evolve into a more appropriate form of operation. Even if a papa-katsu girl uses the question box to argue for higher allowances, if her quality doesn’t justify that amount, I feel the papas won’t support her, and she’ll eventually disappear. In my case, I’ll pay the allowance properly, but if I sense too much of a money-first attitude, I won’t continue seeing her. The girls who earn well probably strike a balance between themselves and their allowance, avoid showing that money-first attitude, and keep us papas wrapped around their fingers(笑)
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the CEO’s Office here as well. > Why don’t you give the questions a little more consideration before answering? What exactly would that accomplish? Are you saying that, after considering them, questions like this should simply be hidden? Even without overanalyzing them, I believe I’m answering them properly. Just because my opinion differs from yours, I don’t appreciate being told that you’re the one who’s right. You claim that women are mistaken, but can you actually prove that? If you can, then please prove that women are the ones misunderstanding the situation. Couldn’t it be the questioner who’s mistaken? Or perhaps you simply can’t afford to pay an allowance, or feel that paying one is too difficult? If it’s too much for you, you can just leave. I think you’d be happier going to a dating club you actually like—or using a dating app, for that matter. There are plenty of options out there. Trying to steer people toward lower allowances through questions on this site is pointless. To begin with, there’s no set market rate for an allowance. If a woman really likes a man, some women will even say that any amount is fine. Are you making the women enjoy themselves? Are you making an effort to be liked? Talking only about the amount of the allowance isn’t enough. Think about how you can spend enjoyable time together. Please try to look at the bigger picture.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member, “Paper Airplane.” If you think of it partly as advertising, paying more will attract more women—but I don’t want women who take that as a given. Those two things contradict each other. P.S. It’s probably better not to bring up going rates. They’ve been coming up far too often lately. In reality, there are club women who are happy with 30,000 yen, while the more you offer—50,000 yen or higher—the more likely you are to get dropped. I can’t bring myself to cut off someone who’s happy with a cute amount like 30,000 yen. It makes me want to help her reach her financial goal, and I feel there are actually many benefits to that. As a man, part of me wants to look cool by offering a high amount like 70,000 or 100,000 yen. But another part of me thinks, “If she’s really that reluctant…” Emotionally, around 50,000 yen is about the highest I can go while still enjoying it. With women outside the club scene, even 30,000 yen feels like a lot—or rather, I’m hesitant to pay money at all.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. I feel that deliberately selecting which questions to publish could create a whole new set of problems. That’s why I think the current policy is fair: publish questions impartially as long as they’re actually phrased as questions, don’t constitute defamation or abuse, and receive at least some reasonable answers. Even if something is technically phrased as a question, it may be kept private if it appears that its main purpose is to express an opinion. If this question isn’t published, that would be the reason. That said, since it has received quite a few answers, I have a feeling it may be published. In any case, not just with this anonymous question box, but with information online in general, it’s true that “if you can’t tell that a lie is a lie, using message boards is difficult.” We live in an age when readers are expected to have a certain level of media literacy. https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/5810 As I wrote in my answer there before: As someone answering questions, I almost never outright declare that a question is a lie. This isn’t 5channel, and I believe we try to answer on the assumption that, at the very least, the question is true from the questioner’s perspective. If people started replying with things like “Nice try, liar,” this place would become nothing but trolling and abuse. Because of that, the things stated in a question may start to seem like established facts. But ultimately, you’ll have to read the answers carefully and decide for yourself whether the question is true and whether the situation is typical. > It makes me feel that the club is only interested in attracting women. Regarding that, I think it’s affiliate marketers who want high allowances to stand out. In my experience, among the women I’ve made offers to and met, those who join expecting an allowance of 10 as the norm have been told that by affiliate marketers. (Of course, I know there are also affiliate marketers who provide accurate information.) However, women who initially hope for a relatively high allowance usually realize the reality after receiving just one to three offers. We aren’t deceiving them, so I think it’s best to simply understand that this is how things work.
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Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Flagmaker, a columnist. Honestly, I think starting at ¥50,000 is unavoidable these days. That’s where you really get to show your skills.
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I generally answer questions on the assumption that the person asking genuinely wants to know and is having trouble with something. However, some malicious questions are mixed in too, including what appear to be promotional posts by women deliberately trying to drive up the going rate for allowances, and complaint-like posts from men. I recently noticed that these questions disguised as malicious posts tend to have an absurd number of categories selected in the tags section. You can see why that happens, right? It’s not about resolving their own concerns through the question—the important thing is getting it in front of as many people as possible. I think the number of tags can at least serve as one clue as to whether a question was written by a reasonable person with reasonable sensibilities. In short, rather than carefully narrowing down which questions to answer, readers should evaluate them for themselves and use the answers as a reference. Marika
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スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
It’s Seattle. Given the membership ratio, I’m sure you realize that most of the people reading this are women. You probably also understand that about half the questions are just for show—entertainment and a way to kill time. Since this is a capitalist country, things naturally get decided by supply and demand.
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