I’m a male member. Would providing my favorite girl with the equivalent of ¥300,000 a month for rent and living expenses be too much?
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I’ve only ever dated women who work in the nightlife industry, and I get the impression that even ¥300,000 would be considered “cheap” to them. Girls at lounges, for example, quickly ask for accessories, designer bags, and so on. I do enjoy that, though.
On the other hand, the 34-year-old woman I met through this site (we’ve known each other for two years) doesn’t ask for jewelry or anything like that, unlike hostesses her age or even younger women working as lounge helpers. She doesn’t wear designer brands at all and apparently has hardly ever traveled overseas. Even though she lives in Tokyo, she rents a place for just ¥50,000 a month. I give her an allowance of ¥70,000 each time we meet, but every time she refuses, saying, “I feel guilty about taking money from someone I like in exchange for an intimate relationship, so I don’t need it.” (Though I give it to her anyway.)
I’m currently giving her ¥70,000 each time, but since we’ve been seeing each other for quite a while, I’m thinking of switching to a fixed monthly bank transfer. That seems to make her feel less guilty than receiving cash directly.
So I wanted to ask whether ¥300,000 a month would be too much support for such a frugal, ordinary woman. Whenever I ask her, she just holds back and won’t say. I realize there may not really be a standard rate, but since I’ve only ever dated women in the nightlife industry, I’d like to hear how others think about money.
I’m Kamihikōki, a male member who never goes to lounges or hostess clubs because I don’t find them fun at all.
Um, does the person asking the question like the nightlife/hostess type of scene, or not?
Which is it, exactly?
Some girls are happy when you buy them something expensive, while others aren’t. Men are the same—what they like varies.
There are men who like hostess clubs and that type of woman, and men who don’t. Personally, I don’t find that scene appealing at all, so I’ll pass.
If she’s the kind of girl described in the question, she probably values even 2,000 or 3,000 yen. Little pleasures like that are usually enough, and I think it’s fine to express your feelings with a bit of luxury once in a while. Even then, a fraction of what you have in mind would probably be plenty.
There are both men and women who may be attracted to expensive things but don’t actually find them appealing or feel they’re worth paying for.
Also, after two years, if you’re giving that amount every time, it’s the kind of money that would make someone happy only if they were a total money monster—or if they were doing it very reluctantly. If I were the man, it wouldn’t be surprising if I’d lost interest a long time ago, and it’s perfectly natural for the woman to feel apologetic too. Maybe there’s another way to spend the money that would make her a little happier.
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For a woman who says she doesn’t need it, ¥70,000—or even ¥300,000—is obviously far too much.
That said, they also say there’s nothing more expensive than getting something for free.
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At this point, I just want the male members paying ¥300,000 a month including rent and the female members receiving ¥300,000 including rent to debate each other, lol.
Why does everyone keep asking here? lol
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Maezawa from the CEO’s office here, answering as well.
Thanks for your question.
I’m not quite sure I understand what you mean.
You’re forcing money on someone who says, “I don’t want an allowance because I’d feel guilty having an intimate relationship with someone I like in exchange for money.”
But now, even though you’re planning to transfer ¥300,000 a month to her, you’re worried that “¥300,000 a month in support might be too much.”
On top of that, for some reason, that ¥300,000 includes rent and living expenses.
I’m not sure how all of these points connect.
You’ve been bringing up the ¥300,000-a-month figure for a while now. Is it the same person?
Incidentally, if you’re including living expenses and rent in that ¥300,000, then consider whether giving your own wife ¥300,000 a month would be too much or too little.
For example, if someone takes home ¥2 million a month and tells his wife to cover the rent, utilities, and everything else out of ¥300,000, that actually seems a little low in proportion to his income.
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
If you’re currently giving her 7 per pay-per-meeting arrangement, why not simply transfer an amount based on how many times you see each other per month?
If you’re meeting about four times a month, making it 30 wouldn’t be much different from the current arrangement, so it probably wouldn’t be excessive.
However, transferring that much every month could end up putting her in an awkward position.
Lately, monthly arrangements of 30 including rent have become popular.
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