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I’ve met around seven women so far, but I’m not currently seeing any of them regularly.

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I’m still struggling with the issue of “allowance = money” and can’t seem to resolve it. Of course, I understand that money is essential for women, but am I paying for their time, or for the person herself? The standard differs from person to person, so it takes time and tact to draw out what they expect. From a man’s perspective, since there are places where you can pay to meet women, I feel the premise is to “enjoy a simulated romance.” That said, there are women I’d gladly pay to see again, and others I never want to see again. What should I say to a woman I’m meeting for the first time during the short, scheduled meeting? I’d appreciate any advice.
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Maezawa from the president’s office will answer this one as well. Thank you for your question. “Am I paying for the other person’s time, or am I paying the person themselves?” First of all, if you’re thinking that way, you’re already approaching this incorrectly. It’s painfully obvious that you’re trying to keep the allowance as low as possible. Are you wondering whether you should frame it in terms of time so you can somehow pay less? Like, “Would 30 minutes in a public restroom be enough? That should be cheap, right?” Whether it’s based on time or on the person themselves is beside the point. You’re not attaching fine print to the allowance. You simply ask how much the other person wants, and if you feel you can’t manage that amount, you walk away. That’s all there is to it. If you’re thinking, “But the other person has limited time too,” then remember the guideline Universe gives: two hours for the meal, followed by about two hours afterward. If nothing else is discussed, spending around two hours together after the meal shouldn’t cause any particular problems. If you want to stay together longer, you could ask when discussing the allowance, for example: “I’d like to spend another four hours together after this. How much allowance would you expect?” Or: “I’m thinking of staying overnight afterward. Would that be okay? And please let me know what allowance you’d like.” That would be the best approach. > “Within the short, predetermined time, what should I say to a woman I’m meeting for the first time? Please give me some good advice.” Toward the end of the meal, you could be direct and say: “Would you like to go to a hotel after this? How much allowance would you like?” I think that would be fine. Once someone is experienced, they probably have a sense of how much allowance they can reasonably ask for based on their own appeal. But people who haven’t figured that out often seem to struggle, even if they receive plenty of offers. For example, someone may hear that another man is successful with an allowance of 50, and become overconfident, thinking that 50 should work for him too. The person who succeeds with 50 may be able to keep the conversation enjoyable, show consideration, or introduce the woman to a world she doesn’t know and make the experience exciting. In other words, he has enough appeal to make 50 work for him. But if she doesn’t enjoy spending time with you, or you start giving orders the moment you enter the room—telling her what to do as though it were only natural—she may decide there won’t be a next time, even if she receives the same 50. With that in mind, I think the best approach regarding the allowance is to ask what the woman would like. Eventually, you may develop a sense of what amount is appropriate in your own case. At that point, you could switch to making an offer yourself, such as: “Would an allowance of 〇 be okay?” However, every woman has different expectations, so you need to be prepared for the possibility that she may turn you down based on the amount.
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I’m Papa-katsu member Paper Airplane. > I’ve met around seven women so far, but I’m not currently seeing any of them on an ongoing basis. I think this means you haven’t yet figured out what kind of woman you personally like or what you’re looking for. > What should I say to a woman I’m meeting for the first time? You should learn to choose women who naturally lift your mood and bring out plenty of positive things to say. It’s also a good idea to develop conversational patterns that make the other person interested in you as well. > When meeting a woman for the first time within a short, fixed amount of time… Toward the end of the meal, if you ask, “What time would you like me to take you home?” most women will answer, “Any time is fine” or “I’ll leave it up to you.” So you may want to take things a little more slowly. If she seems concerned about the time, you should accept that she probably wasn’t interested.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member. That’s a very good question. First: > Are you paying for the other person’s time, or paying the person themselves? You’re paying the person themselves. Time doesn’t have hands or a bank account. The person does have hands to receive money, and may even have a bank account(笑) Next: > With only a short, set amount of time, what should I say to a woman I’m meeting for the first time? Please give me some good advice. I’m an old man past sixty, so I’ll get straight to the point given the limited time I have left. “Would intimacy be okay too?” is enough(笑) There’s no need to overthink it. Just tell her clearly what you want, and you’ll get an answer.
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I’m Meg, a female member. Hmm, I see. I’m a Type D woman in my 40s. The first time I met him, we had a quick meal together, and I accompanied him through the whole arrangement. Now that I think about it, he said many reassuring things so I wouldn’t feel uneasy. For example, he handed me an envelope containing the allowance beforehand and told me to check it. Even in bed, he checked in with me, saying things like, “Things are moving quickly—is this okay?” At the end, he said, “I like you, so make sure you contact me again!” It reminded me how happy I was that someone I’d just met wanted to see me again enough to pay for it. Thank you for your question (*^^*)
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. I may have misunderstood what you’re asking, so I apologize if I’m off the mark. Since these are meetings arranged through a dating club, I think it goes without saying that you give her an allowance. So I’ll leave that part out of my answer. I agree that there are women you want to see again and women you don’t. You can usually tell during the meal on the first date, so it’s not a problem. If you decide during the meal that you don’t need to see her again, I think it’s fine to part ways without discussing the allowance or exchanging contact information. That’s what I do. If you decide in bed that you don’t want to see her again, you can simply say goodbye and stop replying to her LINE messages. Even if you realize after meeting several times that she isn’t what you expected, you can end things by simply not replying to her LINE anymore. When you say that the standard differs depending on the person, do you mean that the amount of allowance each woman wants is different? I don’t like putting a price on women, so I start by saying something like, “Do you have a preferred allowance? I usually offer ○.” The blank is always the same amount. After meeting as many as seven women, haven’t you more or less figured out the specific amount that belongs in your ○? For the first few dates, there’s absolutely no element of pretend romance for me. Someone who can act romantic right from the start, whether it’s pretend or not, is such a turnoff—it’s like a soapland worker who starts moaning just because you touched her breasts. > Mac > > Do soapland workers really start moaning just because you touch their breasts? Even if I know it’s fake, that sounds kind of amusing. At budget establishments, about one in ten soapland workers who don’t seem likely to be very popular suddenly starts moaning, as if to say that men are creatures who get excited when women go “ahh” for them. Soapland can be pretty entertaining in its own way.
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