I’m a miserable man in my sixties, struggling to accept reality.
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It’s been over six months since I joined, and I’m starting to wonder if I’m just not cut out for this because it isn’t fun.
There are certainly a lot of beautiful women, but they casually ask for 100,000 or 150,000 yen for just two or three hours.
Even I can’t make 100,000 yen working all day. Women really have it good.
I’m looking for some comfort, but all I feel is anger welling up inside.
Do supply and demand really balance out like this?
Are there really women who will agree to 30,000–50,000 yen?
I’m Meg, a female member.
You seem pretty worn out.
I’m not sure about the balance between supply and demand, but perhaps you still haven’t met someone wonderful.
Younger women may be nice too, but in times like these, you might want to consider reaching out to warm, nurturing women in their 30s or 40s who are mothers.
(cheerful smile)
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I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer this one too.
Thank you for your question.
> Even I can’t make 10,000 yen in a full day of work.
I’m not really sure what you’re comparing this to.
If money is that important to you, why not just hold on to a 10,000-yen bill every day? That way, it won’t decrease, and perhaps that would suit you better.
If a woman is talking about amounts like 10,000 or 15,000 yen, I assume she’s receiving about that much from other men as well.
If you find yourself thinking, “It’s so hard for me to earn money, yet she’s such an amazing woman,” then I think you’d be better off leaving the service.
I don’t think that’s really the point you should be focusing on.
A lot of men say they don’t like women who are obsessed with money.
But I think you should recognize that you’re the one who’s obsessed with money.
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I’m Hikōki, a male member.
According to my daughter, anyone 18 or older is already an “auntie” or “uncle.” And you’re more than three times that age…
Since you’re practically from the next world, you’ll have to act like an angel…
Life is meant to be enjoyed, and this club is a concentrated version of life—hundreds of times more enjoyable. It’s a shame that you can’t even enjoy it easily.
First, try to enjoy life in a way that makes you feel satisfied.
Unfortunately, in reality, the amount you’re being offered reflects the balance between supply and demand. Even among women, I doubt others are being offered the same amount.
P.S. If I were to edit your wording, it should say something like:
“Those two or three hours flew by because we were having such a wonderful time—I’d happily pay 100,000 or even 150,000 yen!”
You need to express that level of enjoyment and happiness. Otherwise, the other person won’t feel pleased, won’t be able to let their guard down, and won’t feel comfortable relaxing and leaving themselves in your hands. The amount they’re asking for is essentially compensation for enduring two or three long, boring, tedious hours with you.
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The two papa-katsu partners I value very much are both in their late 60s.
They’re probably the kind of men who could afford to pay 10 or 15 without hesitation. Yet they choose to spend time with me, even though I’m in my mid-40s, and while I try to look presentable, I’m hardly the kind of beautiful woman who makes people turn around.
I won’t go into the exact amount of my allowance, but there’s no way I’m receiving 10.
As Seattle-san said, aren’t you only making offers to women who ask for a higher allowance in the first place?
Why not try accepting those terms just once? Then you can decide whether she’s worth it. And if you don’t feel she is, couldn’t you make offers to women who would be happy with 3–5 instead?
You’re over 60, yet you keep making offers only to women who look alike and then getting angry when things don’t work out. It seems you still haven’t learned how to make use of your experience.
Women also pay attention to a man’s demeanor, attitude, and the way he treats women. I think it would be better to reconsider the mindset of “I’m paying, so she should make me feel better.”
My papa (a male supporter) tells me kind things like, “The time I spend with you is truly enjoyable, and it always flies by. Thank you again for today. I’ll always cherish you.”
Of course, I also do my very best to make my papa happy.
Even in a dating club, we’re still people dealing with other people. Rather than focusing on whether the allowance is high or saying that a woman is receiving more than she deserves based on how much you earn, I think it’s enough to simply feel grateful to the woman who took the time to go on a date with you.
I feel nothing but gratitude that, just like my papa, I’m able to share fun and happy moments with someone, while also receiving an allowance.
Sorry this got so long.
Marika
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I’m Kazu, a male member.
If you were in the questioner’s position, would you agree to spend two or three hours with a woman 30 or 40 years older than you in exchange for 10 or 15? I certainly wouldn’t. Not even for 100. For 1,000, I might take an injection and power through it. For 500, I’d at least think about it.
With that in mind, it’s almost unbelievable—and something to be grateful for—that beautiful women are willing to spend time with us for 10 or 15.
This is just my impression, but I think women decide what allowance they want based on the person they’re dealing with. We do the same, don’t we? In my work, I give higher estimates to difficult clients, while I offer lower estimates to clients who are easy to work with and understanding.
In fact, there have been many times when someone said, “I’d ideally like 8, but 5 is fine,” or, “I sometimes receive 10, but 5 is fine.” Just to be clear, I’m not haggling over the allowance. That’s simply their response when I ask after dinner, “I usually arrange things for 5—do you have an allowance in mind?”
Of course, I’ve also had people say, “If possible, I’d prefer 5,” or, “3 is the same as on the app, so I’d appreciate getting a little more than that.”
I understand feeling frustrated when things aren’t going well, but first, try to calm down and approach your dates with a relaxed and gentle attitude. If you’re not a man who seems like a hassle to women, I think what they say will change as well.
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I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
I’m in my 60s too. From time to time, I quietly enjoy myself while checking my reflection in the mirror—and my wallet.
There’s always someone above you and someone below you in this world. I’ve spent my days in the rat race until now—or perhaps I still do—but maybe it’s time to ease up on the race and change my perspective.
The women who receive offers through dating clubs would obviously prefer younger men in their 40s or 50s with tight-fitting pants over an old guy like me.
I don’t think there’s any need to fight a battle you can’t win. It might be worth shifting your focus to the roughly 30% who don’t receive offers.
As they say, “Even a poor marksman can hit the target if he fires enough shots.”
Good luck!
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I’m in Seattle.
Aren’t you only making offers to Platinum and Black members?
If you can’t make ¥100,000 a day, it might be better to quit.
Anger rarely leads to anything good, so perhaps this lifestyle isn’t suited to you.
Don’t become an irritable old man. Don’t tarnish the final chapter of a successful life.
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