Tips Jan 27, 2021 12:36

I’d like to ask about allowances too.

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I’m ranked Black (a few overly helpful papas told me after I left the service…) I used to receive ¥30,000–¥50,000 per pay-per-meeting arrangement, but apparently some women are getting ¥100,000 or ¥200,000? It’s making me feel like my value is really low. I never thought of myself as Black in the first place, so I assumed I was probably Gold or Platinum and even had an intimate arrangement for less. I’d like to understand what papas are thinking. Regardless of a woman’s rank, does it happen often that they think, “I can get away with offering this girl a lower allowance,” and take advantage of her? Once the conversation turns to money, there’s no end to comparing the amounts, and it’s really starting to get to me. Sometimes I even think I should just offer to do it for free once—after all, people say nothing is more expensive than something free… Sorry for rambling.
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Meg
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Age: 50s 👩 Female Former Universe member
I’m Meg, a female member. > “Several papas???" Was that just a typo…? Otherwise, I honestly can’t quite follow the questioner’s line of thinking. For what it’s worth, my allowance is lower than the amounts everyone else here has mentioned. But that doesn’t mean I’ve ever felt I was being looked down on. Although I do ask them, “Please lick me a lot”…
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I’m Tetsu, a male member. I can’t speak for other male members, so I’ll answer based solely on my personal views. The allowance is the same for everyone, regardless of their rank, occupation, or appearance. I don’t adjust it to suit the woman; I set it at an amount I’m comfortable giving. For example, if the allowance I offer is 5 and an incredibly attractive woman tells me she wants 10, I’ll turn her down without hesitation. Even if she tries to meet me halfway by saying, “Then 5 is fine,” I’ll still decline. I appreciate her withdrawing her request and accommodating me, but I don’t want her to see me if it means suppressing her own thoughts and wishes. Club activities are ultimately just for fun, and you can’t keep enjoying them for long if you give in to momentary desires. Honestly, if I’m going to pay 10 just to satisfy a sexual urge once, I’d get far more satisfaction by going to an adult entertainment venue.
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I’m Taro, a male member. I wasn’t planning to answer questions about allowances, but there aren’t many questions today and I’m feeling a little unsatisfied, so I’ll answer this one. First, what exactly is it that you want to do? If you want to make money, you’d be better off working in the sex industry or nightlife. You’re beautiful enough to be considered top-tier. And if you can have H with anyone, wouldn’t that make you unbeatable? Sorry for putting it so bluntly. But this is really important: the girls who can’t do that are the ones scrambling around as hostesses and so on. If you’re prepared to have H, you can compete in a deeper arena, where there are fewer serious rivals and your chances of winning are higher. On platforms like the sex industry, you should be able to reliably turn that value into money. Regardless of the ethical questions, I think it’s a well-designed system in that sense. If you want a decent amount of money but also want to meet a papa who values you, a dating club might be a good option. But you probably haven’t met a good papa yet. You look good and receive a reasonable number of offers, but nothing lasts. That’s probably because you haven’t been able to build a good relationship with your papas. Even after meeting several times, there’s no emotional connection—you’re beautiful, but somehow a little superficial. So they get bored after enjoying your body a few times. Sorry for the unpleasant wording. I’m saying it this bluntly because I don’t think it would get through otherwise. Looks are what get things started; personality is what makes them last. The latter may be what you’re lacking. I’m not denying your character. More precisely, I think you may simply be awkward at expressing your own personality and connecting it with the other person’s. In some ways, that’s more difficult than getting physically intimate, and it’s a real shame to miss out on truly meeting a good person because of that disconnect. But solving it isn’t easy. I think you understand that giving someone H for free isn’t going to fix everything. Still, unless you overcome this, you won’t reach the situation you want. In reality, it’s quite simple: stop worrying about how you’ll be judged and show your true self; take the initiative to trust someone who seems trustworthy. Don’t just open your body—open your heart as well. I’m not in a position to sound so authoritative since I’m not very good at it myself, but I do think this is pretty important.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the CEO’s Office here. Thank you for your question. I believe someone previously mentioned that Black members can only receive offers from other Black members, so the pool of potential supporters is smaller and there are fewer offers overall. As a result, the allowance tends to be lower than for Platinum members, who receive many offers. In other words, women in the lower classes receive so many offers that they can gradually raise their own allowance expectations, and men may still agree. Even if they don’t, they can simply move on, since there are plenty of other offers. It may be too soon to think in terms of your own “value,” but the allowance is something the two people decide on mutually. Whether you feel, “If this man doesn’t work out, there’s always another one,” can affect how you communicate your desired amount. I don’t think you should try to renegotiate the allowance with your existing supporters now. However, when you receive future offers, I recommend stating an amount that you yourself feel comfortable with. Even if the man declines, you still have your existing supporters, so you won’t be stuck. If he agrees, you can simply stop seeing the supporters who offer lower allowances. Let me be clear: your personal value has nothing to do with your allowance. It can also change depending on how you communicate, as well as whether you think about and put into practice ways to make the other person like you when you meet. Men generally don’t like women who think too much about these things, but I think it can make a big difference if you act in ways that make them like you without letting them notice what you’re doing. It’s also worth thinking about how to ask for what you want. Good luck.
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Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
This is Seattle. Women should be the ones to propose 10, 20, or 30. Once you find a sponsor willing to pay that, you can turn down anyone offering less. In time, the amount will naturally settle at a level that reflects your own ability. Free-market capitalism in dating. Your weapons aren’t your ranking—they’re your looks and your conversation skills.
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member who finds men more attractive the more generous they are, but women cuter when they ask for less. If you say “nothing,” I might give you 100. If someone tells me it’s free, I’m dumb enough to give her 30 anyway. (Since “free” is still technically an amount, you shouldn’t actually say “free,” though.) The girls I’ve stayed with long-term—my absolute favorites, because everything about them is adorable—I’ve never even discussed the amount of their allowance with them… Please remain the wonderful kind of woman who can be genuinely happy with 3–5.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. First of all, I find it odd to think that someone should get a higher allowance just because she’s in the Black class, or a lower allowance because she’s Standard. You’re not dating her face. I already dislike the idea of market rates for allowances, so class-based rates are twice as bad. Do you really want the staff at a dating club to put a price on you during a one-hour interview, including the photos, saying, “You’re Platinum, so your allowance is ¥X”? I don’t think the amount of a pay-per-meeting allowance determines anyone’s worth, either. You wouldn’t want your own value judged by something like that, would you? Some women take pride in how much allowance they receive, but that’s what you call a slave boasting about her chains. It’s sad—they’ve become slaves to money. Money is a tool. Tools are meant to be used, not to be served by. If you obsess over the value of your own chains while watching slaves boast about theirs, you’ll end up wearing chains yourself. Rather than envy slaves who brag about their chains, take it as a lesson so you don’t sink to the point where the chains are all you have left to be proud of. Finally, free is scary. About as scary as having sex without a condom with a woman you’ve just met.
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I’m Date◎Yume, a male member. I’ve never dated anyone through a dating club without providing financial support. It probably varies from man to man, but in my case, what I pay is the maximum amount I’m able to support a woman with. The going rate doesn’t matter much to me. Although it’s pay-per-meeting, I pay at least twelve times the monthly amount upfront annually, so that it works out to a fixed monthly sum. Sometimes I wonder if I’m paying a little too much, but from the women’s perspective, it still doesn’t seem to be enough. Still, whether a guaranteed fixed amount is better—or whether I’m simply a good match—for now, the arrangement has remained stable(笑) It probably depends on the male member, but I don’t think things like nibbling or sucking happen very often.
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