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Jan 24, 2021 16:29
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I always enjoy reading this site.
I’m an ordinary office worker in a regional city and a female member in my early 30s with an average appearance.
I came across a question about allowances.
https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/5497
It seems that many of the respondents were surprised by the amounts mentioned in the question, but I also receive fairly generous allowances myself, so I’m starting to think the questioner’s sense of what’s normal might actually be closer to the norm.
That said, as many of you pointed out, I was reminded that there are differences depending on the area where the men live.
To give you an idea of the allowances I currently receive per meeting and the men’s locations:
¥90,000–¥100,000 — Nagoya
¥150,000 — Nagoya and Osaka
¥200,000 — Osaka and Tokyo
¥300,000–¥500,000 — Tokyo
In my case, ¥200,000 is the most common amount. Since I don’t do overnight stays, I’ve never received a seven-figure amount for a single meeting.
Also, the supposed “market rate” of ¥50,000 has only been offered to me by two men, both from Nagoya.
Of course, I’m not choosing the men I date based solely on the amount of the allowance. It just happens that many of the men who can offer generous allowances have also been attractive in other ways.
So my question is: why are there such regional differences?
Is the actual market rate really ¥50,000?
4 answers
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
So far, when I’ve asked women how much they’re looking for, the amounts I’ve heard have ranged from 3 to 10. (Osaka is pretty rural, so the amounts are lower, right?)
That said, I’m not particularly comfortable with women who can immediately name a price (are they just more experienced with this kind of dating?), so the women I’m drawn to tend to be those who can’t really answer or don’t care much about the allowance.
Oh, sorry. I realize you meant that, even without the woman saying anything, the man would offer something in that range. But I’ll pass on women who are experienced with this kind of dating.
P.S. If you meet 10 times a month at 3 each, that’s 30; if you meet 6 times at 5 each, that’s also 30. And if you meet 20 times at 2 each, that’s 40…
In the end, I wonder if it’s about the monthly total. But I guess that’s not how it works… If you meet twice a month, it would be 30 × 2, right? The scale is different.
Other
I’m Jasmine.
It’s more about individual differences than regional differences.
Lately, there have been a lot of questions like this that can’t really be answered with averages.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying yourself. Is there really talk of the going rate being ¥50,000? I think the respondents are simply sharing what they’ve seen around them, and since no one has conducted a comprehensive survey, I don’t think there’s a definitive answer.
There may be regional differences—or there may not. I’ve heard the figure of ¥100,000 from women in both Tokyo and Nagoya, whereas the ¥80,000 request has only come from women in Tokyo, whom I’ve met fewer of than women from Nagoya. When I heard someone ask for ¥80,000, I couldn’t help but chuckle to myself, wondering if she thought ¥50,000 was too little and ¥100,000 too much, so she chose the middle ground. To me, allowance goes from ¥50,000 straight to ¥100,000. That’s why I find it interesting that such a peculiar amount as ¥90,000 came up. Do people really negotiate allowance in ¥10,000 increments?
If allowance does vary by region, I imagine it’s because Tokyo has more wealthy people due to its more active economy, or because rent is higher. There’s no need to think too hard about Tokyo’s economy being more active. Rent is probably a major factor affecting how much support someone wants.
As for the going rate, as I said, I don’t know—and I don’t think it really matters. As Maezawa-san said, I don’t think there’s such a thing as “the going rate for a painting.” If both people in the relationship are satisfied with the allowance, isn’t that all that matters?
Of course, I can understand a new female member being unsure how much allowance to request. But a woman who already has five or more partners and still fixates on the going rate may be popular, yet she doesn’t appeal to me. Women who focus on the amount of allowance or the going rate don’t seem to be enjoying genuinely satisfying relationships, and it feels like things have quietly turned into something other than a relationship through a dating club. I use Universe so I don’t have to meet women involved in compensated dating, so I’d rather not meet that type of woman there.
Anyway, I’m off to have unprotected sex with a Tokyo CA who’s on the blacklist, despite her coming all the way to meet me for a date for less than what the questioner calls the “mainstream range.” Take care.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the CEO’s Office here.
Thank you for your question.
That’s amazing. I’d love to see more people like you speak up.
With the previous questioner, I wondered if they had gotten the units wrong. But there are people in Universe whose annual income exceeds 100 million yen, so I guess there really are people for whom that level is completely normal.
That’s good to hear.
> Is the actual going rate really 50,000 yen?
First of all, there’s no such simple thing as a “going rate.”
It’s like asking, “How much is the going rate for a painting?”
A painting by a famous artist might sell for hundreds of millions or even tens of billions of yen, while a student’s painting might sell for 50,000 yen.
If many people sell their work for 50,000 yen because they’re comparable to students, then at first glance, the going rate would seem to be 50,000 yen.
But if someone thinks, “This painting is wonderful—I’ll pay 500,000 yen for it,” then that painting is likely to be valued at 500,000 yen or more in the future as well.
In the end, there’s no going rate for the field of “paintings” as a whole. But for a particular person’s work, something resembling a going rate can emerge based on how much people are willing to pay for it.
Even so, if a buyer says, “Your going rate is this much, so sell me the painting for that price,” but someone else is willing to pay more, then it turns out that wasn’t really the going rate after all.
So I think allowances work the same way—there’s no fixed market rate, and it varies from person to person.
That said, 300,000–500,000 yen in Tokyo is pretty incredible. I’d love to know the secret to getting men to offer that much.
Even in Tokyo, my impression is that around 80,000 yen is common, and even generous supporters offer around 150,000 yen at most. But I guess there were people offering far more—I just hadn’t heard about them before.
You’re seriously impressive.