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I’m a female member.

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As has been said many times, the worst are the people who insist they would never do anything a girl dislikes. Whether she’s genuinely happy or just forcing herself to go along with it is entirely based on their own subjective judgment, isn’t it? I think the people who say it boastfully are the most deluded.
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フラーレン
🏅 明け方に低頻度で浮上する回答者です
細く長く続けばいいなあ
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Fullerene, a male member! Wow, everyone’s put a lot of thought into their answers. Impressive. I agree with the questioner—it’s all subjective. Actually, is there anything in this world that’s completely free of subjectivity? Even things that appear objective are based on standards that involve personal judgment. That’s why different people can look at the same situation and reach completely opposite conclusions. These days, restaurants, for example, turn people away if their temperature is 37.5°C or higher, right? But then you start wondering: Do you measure it on the forehead or the wrist? Which device do you use? Is 37.45°C okay or not? There are all sorts of things to consider, so in the end, there’s always room for subjective judgment. (Sometimes I even get tired of how overly logical I can be, haha.) Assuming that you can never really know how the other person feels, just take statements like: “I’m (trying to) do ○○” with a grain of salt. And if you remember that other people may be seeing you the same way, perhaps it won’t make you as angry. Hang in there.
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前澤(スタッフ)
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer as well. Thank you for your question. Generally speaking, I can understand why people who state things so categorically may be considered difficult, since others often think, “That’s not really true.” But the truly difficult people are those who say things like: “I’m the one paying you, right?” or “Do you know who I am?” In other words, people who don’t listen to what the other person has to say in the first place. They’re basically saying, “Don’t disagree with someone as important as me,” and people like that really do exist. Also, the people answering questions here may appear to be categorically saying that they would never do something, but that’s only how it comes across in writing. I think what they mean is that they try to be considerate in that way. Still, as you said, in society at large, people who speak so categorically may well fall into the difficult-to-deal-with category. P.S. When I said, “What exactly are you bragging about? (lol),” I meant something different from ordinary bragging. For example, someone says, “I went through something this difficult,” and then someone else responds, “Oh, that’s nothing. I’ve had it much worse.” Then another person joins in and says, “That’s not so bad either. I went through something even worse.” It refers to bragging about how difficult one’s own experiences have been. So I thought it was the opposite kind of bragging from what you meant this time.
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フラグメーカー
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🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer. If women feel comfortable telling me things like “That hurts,” “Stop,” or “I’m not feeling well,” does that mean I’m actually building a pretty good relationship with them? Finding the right balance is so difficult~ (^_^;)
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紙ひこうき
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member. If you look at things from the perspective of women who receive money in places like men’s esthetic salons, the dynamic is basically: The man is 100% satisfied, while the woman, although she can’t say it outright, is enduring things within the limits of what she can tolerate—almost 100% of the time. The more popular, favored, and attractive a woman is, the more likely she is to say this directly or hint at it through her attitude. But women who are that straightforward are only supported by men they genuinely click with, so they’re not popular at all. Clubs aren’t as blatantly customer-service-oriented as the adult entertainment industry, so women don’t have to put up with quite as much. Even so, the fundamental point remains that they are still in the position of receiving money. I feel that’s an important part of the reality. I don’t think you need to get so worked up over what men write, either. Men enjoy getting carried away and misunderstanding things—that’s how the money circulates as allowances. If you see it as simply the natural order of things, it isn’t necessarily bad from a socioeconomic perspective. > Mac For me, men’s esthetic salons were places to go pick up women. Men’s esthetic salons are generally legitimate, apart from a few exceptions. Both men’s esthetic salons and clubs are gray areas—subtle and complicated. In some ways, clubs go beyond the adult entertainment industry… I honestly think they completely surpass it. Once you’ve experienced them, you can’t go back to regular adult entertainment. Men’s esthetic salons are legitimate aside from a very small number of exceptions, so for those of us who enjoy massages, they’re an occasional but essential way to unwind. > “If something you dislike can be neutralized with money, maybe you don’t really dislike it that much.” I think that’s probably true in most cases. > Flag Maker Being able to say things to each other that you can’t say to anyone else sounds like a good relationship. > Kazu Men’s esthetic salons can be interesting too. If the vibe doesn’t click, some men pay and leave right away, and there are even times when they don’t get a massage at all. On the other hand, some people spend eight hours a day just talking. From the male perspective, clicking with someone equals complete satisfaction, and I think that’s perfectly fine. But from the perspective of a woman like the questioner, it may be interpreted as nothing more than a misunderstanding. I imagine that can happen even in relationships that continue for several years. Men are probably happier not knowing the truth in that world.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male club member. Yes, I think it’s ultimately subjective. That’s why I wrote, “People judge whether something is unpleasant based on their own standards.” That’s precisely why it’s important to pay attention to the other person’s reactions and check whether they seem uncomfortable. Men can’t read everything, so I also think it’s important for women to say when they don’t like something. Women can’t read everything either—sometimes, even when I’m uncomfortable and enduring it, they persistently put a finger in my anus and move it around. There are things in relationships that people can’t understand unless you say them, right? I don’t remember saying it boastfully, but are you referring to me as someone who did? If you’re one of my partners and I’m forcing you to do something you dislike, please message me on LINE. If I’ve ever pressured you into something you didn’t want, I’d like you to tell me. I didn’t like having a finger inserted and moved around in my anus, but I couldn’t bring myself to say so at the time. Since then, whenever someone’s finger approaches my backside, I say, “I had an unpleasant experience before, so please only go as far as the entrance.” Rather than having a meltdown in an anonymous question box, you’d probably feel less stressed if you learned to say clearly when you don’t like something. If you’re saying that you have to silently endure things to receive your allowance, then you’re choosing to endure them in order to receive the allowance, so blaming the man would be misplaced. Since I also chose to silently endure it, all I think about the woman who inserted and moved her finger around is, “She really couldn’t read her partner’s reactions.” If you’re curious about what “inserting and moving a finger around in the anus” refers to, please see this question: https://universe-club.jp/help/questions/view/5510 At the time, Maezawa-san wrote, “What exactly are you bragging about here? (laughs),” but it wasn’t a boast. I thought Riichi-san’s answer was funny, so I simply shared one of my own anecdotes to entertain everyone. I wonder whether people try to read emotions into an author’s writing that aren’t actually there because of questions like, “Explain what the author was thinking at this point.” Whenever I saw problems like that, I wanted to ask whether the person who wrote the question was friends with Dazai and had asked him directly about his intentions. Unless you’ve heard it from the author themselves, you can’t know exactly what they were thinking. Maezawa-san, I’m sorry for using your writing as an example of why people shouldn’t arbitrarily treat someone else’s words as bragging. I have nothing against you personally (laughs). > Paper Airplane-san > > Some girls say things directly, while others convey it through their attitude, but they only receive support from people who are on the same wavelength, so they aren’t popular at all. I think the club is a place where you meet and date people you’re on the same wavelength with. So even when someone asks, “I dislike this—what should I do?”, all I can really say is, “If you don’t like it, stop seeing him.” In fact, if I feel during a date that we’re probably not compatible, I don’t invite her into an adult relationship (intimate), and I don’t go on a second date. The three partners I continue seeing all turn people down quite readily: they’ve declined offers outright, declined an adult relationship even as C-type partners for reasons other than the allowance amount, or tried an adult relationship once and then decided not to meet again. I assume they continue seeing me because we’re reasonably compatible. This also relates to the answer to whether a club is different from the sex industry. In the sex industry, you receive sexual services from anyone, regardless of whether you’re on the same wavelength, as long as it falls within the standard services. Anything outside that standard is simply not allowed, regardless of the woman’s personal likes or dislikes. That’s why I don’t like men who negotiate for intercourse at a delivery service, or women who suggest intercourse because it’s easier than oral sex and they can get a tip.
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