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Nov 8, 2020 20:30
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I’ve been in the club scene for about three years. I’m a 51-year-old Platinum member, registered with a club in a regional area. I had ongoing arrangements with one woman in the Chubu area, one in Kansai, and two in Kanto. The other day, my arrangement with one of the women in Kanto came to an end.
For nearly a year, I traveled to the Kanto area about once a month to meet her. We would have dinner and an adult relationship (intimate). I paid a pay-per-meeting allowance of around 50,000 yen each time.
On our final meeting, we decided to have room service, so we went straight to the room after meeting. We agreed to have an adult relationship before eating, and when I came out after taking a shower, she had already left. I received a message on my phone saying, “Sorry, something urgent came up. Let me know how much the hotel cost and I’ll pay for it.”
Until then, she had never paid for the hotel, and I had never asked her to. She hasn’t contacted me since, and I haven’t contacted her either. I’m not hung up on her, but when I look back and try to figure out why, I can’t find any clear reason.
Then I remembered that during our conversation that day, I mentioned that I was a salaried employee and didn’t have any impressive title. She also asked me whether I had ever considered going independent, and I said that I hadn’t really thought about it. Looking back, I wonder whether this was what made her lose interest and leave.
Only she knows the real reason, so I’m not going to ask her what she thought. As I wrote at the beginning, I’m asking because I’d like to know whether women care about the status or titles of the men they meet through a club.
4 answers
Other
I’m RIN, a female member.
I wouldn’t just run out of the room over something like that.
Either she had some kind of private emergency she couldn’t tell the club member about, or she finally couldn’t put up with something else that you’ve probably already been vaguely suspecting.
Either way, I think you can tell everything you need to know from the fact that she hasn’t contacted you.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
Is that really the only thing that comes to mind? I have a feeling there may be something else you haven’t written because it’s hard to say, separate from your title or occupation. I think that may be the reason.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the President’s Office here.
Thank you for your question.
Some people may care about a man’s title or position, but I feel that men often don’t tell the whole truth either, so I wonder whether that alone would really be enough to cause someone to end the relationship.
That said, women can sometimes become disappointed when they see the pathetic side of the person they’re dating.
For example, suppose a man has often made unreasonable demands of a woman. She may have stayed with him despite disliking that behavior, thinking, “Well, I guess that’s just how men are…”
But then she sees him being overly deferential to someone else.
She may think, “So he acted all high and mighty with me, but he grovels to other people?” and feel disappointed. In other words, she realizes that he only acts arrogant toward people weaker than him. Acting that way toward service staff or others in a weaker position can also be a reason for a woman to lose respect.
So if you’re going to act tough, you need to be willing to stand your ground even with people more powerful than you—or else treat everyone kindly, regardless of who they are.
Anyway, I’ve gotten off track.
For a woman to disappear while you’re taking a shower, something pretty serious must have happened.
Perhaps when you mentioned that you were a salaryman, you also said something like how difficult life was because you were a salaryman.
That might have led her to think, “If it’s really that tough, why don’t you go independent? Why haven’t you?”
She may then have interpreted your talk about not having much financial room as an attempt to negotiate a lower allowance, and thought, “There’s no way I can continue with this person.”
Of course, you’d have to ask her to know for sure. My feeling is that it was probably something other than your title, but in the end, that’s only speculation.
A person’s title doesn’t seem all that important. However, I do think women pay attention to whether a man has a sense of ease and financial leeway.
Other
Sorry I’m not a woman. I’m Gaku, a male member.
We’re almost the same age, but I think she had been harboring small frustrations that I hadn’t noticed myself. It probably had nothing to do with my title or status—in a man’s eyes, it was probably more like, “That’s what this was about?”
This happens a lot in the real world too. It’s like when a young woman at your company suddenly tells you she wants to quit, even though she never usually comes to you for advice.
But since it’s often difficult to get people to tell you these things, I don’t think there’s much point in worrying about it. Improving yourself to a certain extent is important, but I don’t think you need to force yourself to accommodate someone else.
P.S.
I love the manga *Kirin* that Marika mentioned in her answer to another question—the battle on the Tomei Expressway between the air-cooled Porsche guy and the guy with the sword.
I never understood the appeal of women with big butts when I was young, but after turning forty, I finally started to get it.