Aizawa, Sub-Chief at Universe Club Tokyo, here.
If I understand your question correctly, you’re wondering whether the reason so many men hesitate to offer 50,000 yen on a pay-per-meeting basis is because they have low incomes—is that right?
If so, income may not be all that relevant. Some men with high incomes spend heavily on other hobbies, while others with lower incomes only spend money at dating clubs. The number of offers also doesn’t seem to be directly proportional to income.
Perhaps the value you’ve set for yourself seemed too high to the men you’ve met so far.
Meeting someone depends on luck and timing, so I’m sure you’ll eventually meet a man who feels that your value is worth the price. Until then, continue working on yourself and be ready to seize the opportunity when it comes.
I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office, and I’ll answer too.
Thank you for your question.
Even if a man has a high income, if he doesn’t know how much he should offer a woman to make the relationship work, his allowance will probably be low.
In the end, I think it all comes down to whether he genuinely cares about women. Someone who does might make the effort to offer 5 even on an annual income of 6 million yen, while some high earners may offer much less.
That said, naturally, even if someone earns 6 million yen a year, paying 10 or 15 on a pay-per-meeting basis would be difficult, no matter how hard they tried. To offer 10 or 15 each time, he needs not only to be considerate, but also to have a high income.
I understand why you’re concerned about annual income.
However, some high earners still won’t pay much. What matters is whether the person is considerate, whether you can meet someone like that, and, even if you do, whether he will take a liking to you.
I also think a little technique is necessary.
When you say you want 5, “That’s too much,” or “Everyone pays ○,” is a standard line men use. But if you focus on the “everyone” part, you may find a way to handle the situation.
Simply put, before discussing the terms of the allowance, casually mention during dinner—and at appropriate moments—that everyone has been giving you 7. Just sprinkle it into the conversation naturally, without sounding boastful.
That way, the other person will have it in his mind that everyone gives you 7, making it less likely that he’ll offer you a low amount by saying, “Everyone pays ○.”
After that, you can give the impression that dinner only would be fine for today, while also suggesting that you’d continue seeing him after dinner if he offered the same allowance as everyone else.
Then, if he asks, “Since we may continue seeing each other, would five be okay?” you could respond along the lines of, “You’re such a wonderful person, so I’ll make an exception for you,” and accept it graciously.
That’s probably how I’d approach it. Of course, if he feels you’re being insincere, he’ll back off. And if he thinks, “If I’m paying that much, dinner only is fine,” then you’ll simply part ways after the meal.
But isn’t that okay?
If the allowance is lower than what you want, you’ll build up stress and wear yourself down emotionally.
If you only see men who are willing to offer the allowance you want, you’ll be able to genuinely care about them. And when someone offers what you’re looking for, you’ll naturally want to see him again.
Then the man will also think, “She’s a really good person,” and I believe you can build a happy relationship together.
First, imagine what kind of person is right for you. Then decide whether you want to see only men like that, or whether you want to play the numbers game and accept anyone.
That’s different for everyone. If you’re in a desperate situation, you may choose the latter, but I hope you’ll think carefully about what’s best for you before taking action.
I’m Gaku, a male member.
I run a small business, so my annual income is around ¥20–30 million.
That said, annual income is only a rough guideline. Someone working 100 hours a week to make ¥20 million may have less disposable income than someone earning ¥10 million while working 30 hours a week and receiving substantial passive income from real estate, stocks, and so on.
If we’re talking about salary alone, I get the impression that you need to be making around ¥40 million to have real financial breathing room, as SALON’s membership requirements suggest.
I’m looking for dates with an atmosphere that isn’t possible in everyday life. So I usually budget several tens of thousands of yen for a hotel, several tens of thousands for dinner for two, and a total of around ¥100,000–¥200,000 per date including the allowance, once or twice a month.
I’d like to work harder so I can make better offers.
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
I write my own columns, and my annual income is around 10–15 million yen, depending on my performance and how I’m evaluated.
At first, driven by my initial enthusiasm, I was engaging in papa-katsu in a way that was more generous and proper than I could really afford. But lately, I’ve started to understand how No. 3 feels, so I honestly don’t know what to say.
So in the end, it’s difficult for me to be involved with women who are heavily into papa-katsu, haha.
I’m Kazu, a male member.
There’s a graph showing the annual incomes of male members here:
https://universe-club.jp/women/introduct/
I expect my own annual income this year to be around ¥40 million. However, as you may have begun to realize from our conversations about after-dates, I think the issue isn’t a man’s annual income, but rather how much he’s willing to spend on the women he meets through the dating club—and on you in particular.
