I’m a woman in my 20s, probably Gold rank, Type C.

Maezawa from the President’s Office here with an answer as well. Thank you for your question. > The dinner-only papas I’ve met through apps often tell me, “I don’t understand why men want to move on to an adult relationship. If they just want intimacy, they should go to a hostess club or something, right?” Everyone is different, so I think it’s fine for people like that to exist. But saying they “don’t understand the feeling” seems a little off to me. They should be able to understand it. If they’re being serious, I wonder whether those dinner-only papas are men who have never been with anyone outside the adult-entertainment industry and have only experienced intimacy through such establishments. That may be why they separate things into intimacy only through those establishments and simulated romance only through apps. But if you think about it as a relationship without money involved, that’s rather unnatural, isn’t it? I think Universe Club is a place where people gather because they dislike that unnaturalness and, even if money is involved, want to enjoy something a little more like a normal romantic relationship—something that feels like genuine human connection.

I’m in Seattle. Looks are what spark the initial offer, and sexual compatibility matters too. But whether things continue really comes down to whether you enjoy talking with each other. I’ve traveled with women I met through a club, so the most important thing for me is whether we can genuinely enjoy ourselves even while sightseeing or just spending time together normally. I have, on occasion, developed that kind of relationship with someone I met through an adult entertainment service, but the odds aren’t very good.

I’m Column Writer Flagmaker. I feel like those dinner-only papas say that as an excuse because they don’t have the courage to invite someone into an adult relationship. I think that nuance is part of it, too. P.S. Also, finding what’s known in the adult entertainment world as an “oshi girl” (a favorite provider) is incredibly difficult. You have to read through the profiles and diary entries on City Heaven, analyze them based on patterns and lessons learned from experience, and then put in a lot of time and effort before you finally find someone who suits you. Even after you find one, she may quit before you know it, and starting from scratch to find a new favorite is a real hassle. If that’s your only goal, it might be cost-effective, but when it comes to finding a favorite, it’s a different story. It’s not cost-effective. I used to be pretty good at deducing things from providers’ diary entries—so much so that a friend called me “Detective Conan of the adult entertainment world.” But going back to that now would mean too much painstaking work, time, and effort, so I just can’t do it anymore ^^;

Lately, I’ve been so busy and absorbed in my work that it’s practically become my girlfriend. One day, I thought my wife was going to compliment me, but instead she said, “Glad you found yourself a fun little pastime.” Huh? Ouch… When I get really absorbed in a project, she says, “Glad you found yourself a nice toy.” Bang—another blow. I’m Paper Airplane, a male member spending his days heartbroken because he can’t even go on dates. You can become absorbed in work, hobbies, sports, and sometimes even women as if they were your partner—but that has absolutely never happened with adult entertainment. Nor do I want it to. So, value for money has nothing to do with it.

I’m Fullerene, a male member! That’s a really well-written, excellent question. Actually, I get the feeling you’ve already answered it yourself. When we talk about value for money, there’s an objective measure for the “cost,” but the “performance” is subjective, right? In other words, what people are looking for is different from what they’d get at an adult entertainment venue. Isn’t that exactly where the appeal of Universe’s Type B lies? For example, when a man wants to satisfy a desire for self-fulfillment like, “I’m amazing—I talked her into it and made her mine” (sorry for the vulgar wording), where is he supposed to go? Hostess club → 10% success rate Adult entertainment venue → 100% success rate If that’s the case, he can’t satisfy that desire by going to either one. That’s where a dating club comes in. Rather than Type D, which appears to offer a success rate close to 100%, Type C, which advertises a 50% chance, may actually receive more offers because it stimulates that desire for self-fulfillment—that’s my theory. For women, too, wouldn’t it be easier to accept an arrangement that advertises a 50% chance than one where they’re expected to accept 100% of the time?

Universe Club Tokyo Sub-chief Aizawa here, sharing my thoughts. For the moment, let’s set aside the fact that you’re supposedly Gold rank. Since it’s only an estimate, I assume that wasn’t something a male member told you directly. I’m not wealthy myself, nor am I involved in papa-katsu, so my opinion may differ from those of our members. But I honestly don’t understand people who say, “I don’t get why men want to move on to an adult relationship (intimate). If they want sex, why don’t they just go to a brothel?” I don’t understand paying someone just to have dinner with them. I can see the appeal if she’s as entertaining as a comedian, or has such an impressive background that you can learn all kinds of things just by talking to her. But I don’t understand wanting to pay an ordinary woman for the meal and an allowance just to eat together. If you’re willing to buy her dinner and give her spending money with no ulterior motive, are you related by blood? Sorry, I’ve strayed a little from the question. As for why male members don’t go to brothels, I’m sure the reasons vary from person to person: - They don’t like the idea that they can always get what they want as long as they pay. - They prefer women they wouldn’t find in that kind of establishment. - It’s simply a pastime. - They don’t find brothels particularly clean, and so on. There could be countless reasons. Rather than choosing a club where you might not even receive any offers, why did you choose a dating club when working at a brothel might have been more financially rewarding? Perhaps some of the reasons you had for not choosing that route are connected to, or even the same as, the reasons men choose dating clubs.

I’m Kazu, a male member. I imagine every man has different preferences, but when choosing someone to date, my criteria and priorities are: ① personality, ② her work and hobbies, ③ sex, and ④ appearance. Until I go on a first date, I can’t know what a woman’s personality or sexual compatibility will be like, so I decide whether to make an offer based on her work, hobbies, and appearance. As I wrote in my column, I’ve gone to both host and hostess clubs and adult entertainment establishments. If a woman works in the adult entertainment industry, her work is usually the main topic available for conversation, so the conversation tends to revolve around sexual topics. Also, while income is probably the biggest reason most women choose to work in that industry rather than at a hostess club, I’ve heard that some do so because they don’t feel confident entertaining customers through conversation—or simply find it too much trouble. So I don’t expect much from conversations with women in that line of work. That said, when it comes to sexual topics, they naturally know a lot and can be quite interesting. What I’m looking for at a dating club is sex with a woman who’s fun to talk to and whose vibe I click with. What I’m paying for at an adult entertainment establishment is efficient sexual release. So what you get from the two is completely different. You can’t compare two different things based on cost performance. As an aside, if you want to develop a relationship with a woman from an adult entertainment establishment that includes going out together before or after her shift, or meeting outside the establishment, you need to keep booking her regularly to some extent.