I’m a male member who has been struggling with Universe’s misclassification of women for the past year.
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After COVID, I was very pleased to see so many women being recruited and the website becoming more active. However, misclassification has become rampant, and I can’t enjoy myself even when I want to.
In my experience, until about two years ago, most women registered as Type B would develop into an adult relationship that same day, but at Universe now, women who are clearly Type A are casually registered as Type B, and even worse, some Type A women are registered as Type C and left that way.
This is the misclassification that has been a problem for some time.
While many dating clubs have standardized their offerings around transactional relationships or dinner dates, hasn’t Universe become a machine for mass-producing convenient dinner-only women?
Let me give you a specific example.
A woman who had already gone on five same-day transactional dates at another dating club with no complaints—in cases where she was dinner-only, the members would have complained—was registered as Type B at Universe. There have been several confusing feedback entries about her, such as “I had a date that led to a second meeting.”
I’m extremely angry that Universe, which displayed women’s desired pay-per-meeting allowance as recently as 2015, is now actively promoting this kind of misclassification.
I believe there are two definitions of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), which coexist:
1. Including an adult relationship (intimate)
2. Meals and shopping only
What do Representative Kida, who coined the term papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), and the rest of the Universe staff think about this distinction?
Over the past few years, the discrepancy in types has become particularly severe at the Tokyo branch, which has the highest number of female registrations.
When women come to register at a dating club, are they:
① Not being properly encouraged to understand and accept the possibility of an adult relationship?
② Being classified as Type B or C simply because they are fairly cute, so the club can earn an introduction fee despite their being dinner-only?
③ Or are the staff simply lacking the ability to identify their actual relationship type?
Regarding ②, this has been the subject of complaints for quite some time, but in recent years I believe cases resulting from ① and ③ have increased dramatically.
Anyone who has looked at another dating club’s website even once should realize that women who genuinely fit Type B are extremely rare. You may see wording such as “from the second meeting onward,” but the clubs do make some effort to verify whether those claims are credible.
What Universe needs to do is group all dinner-only women together in a separate category. Whether or not an adult relationship later develops from there is a separate matter and not important here.
And I’ve had more than enough of the lectures on how to win over Type B women that some of this site’s columnists seem to love.
Please launch an internal project to put an end to the mass production of hidden Type A women being registered as Type B or C.
This is a strong request from a longtime member of five years.
What I would also like to ask is: what kind of internal consensus currently exists regarding how women’s types are decided?
This question is directed to Mr. Kida and the rest of the staff.
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
I understand where you’re coming from. It’s true that there was a huge spike in “type scams” after COVID, so I can’t say your concerns are entirely unfounded.
But you’ve been with Universe for five years, and I honestly don’t understand how you could have to make so many offers that you’ve been
> struggling with type scams at Universe for the past year
for that long…
This isn’t an “offer club,” you know…
From the staff’s perspective, long-time members—men included—are basically irrelevant. If you ask a question like this, they’ll just see you as an embarrassing guy who couldn’t get anywhere with dating.
If you were a new member, they might have listened a little more… What a shame.
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I’m Maezawa from the CEO’s office.
There hasn’t been much talk about dating-type fraud lately, so if it really has disappeared, that’s good to hear. I had also assumed that if men had become more gentlemanly, the quality of Universe’s male members must have improved.
That’s why it’s helpful that there are still people like you asking these questions.
That said, I don’t agree with everything you said. What I appreciate is that you clearly pointed this out so Universe doesn’t get the wrong idea.
Universe has always conducted serious and strict interviews to eliminate dating-type fraud, and we will continue to do so.
So, what exactly do I disagree with?
> In my experience, until about two years ago, even with Type B, most relationships developed into an adult relationship (intimate) on the same day.
No, that’s completely wrong.
You’ve misunderstood something. Type B members want to have dinner and part ways on the first day. Why would you invite them into an adult relationship (intimate) that same day?
If that’s what you do, you’re essentially declaring that the dating types don’t matter to you. While accusing others of dating-type fraud, you yourself don’t understand what the dating types mean. Please think carefully about what they actually signify.
If you want an adult relationship (intimate) from the first day, make an offer to someone who is Type C or D.
You couldn’t be more mistaken.
> While many dating clubs standardize their arrangements as either transactional relationships or meals only—
Why does Universe have to conform to other dating clubs?
If that’s what you want, you should enjoy yourself at another club.
Universe has its own strengths. Didn’t you become a member because you understood and appreciated them? Is there really any appeal in Universe being exactly the same as every other club?
This makes absolutely no sense to me.
> Let me give you a specific example.
That isn’t specific at all.
Other women’s registrations have nothing to do with registrations at Universe. Some women who work in the adult entertainment industry register with Universe because they want to go on dinner dates.
You can’t discuss everything according to standards for an adult relationship (intimate) without explaining how that relates to dating-type fraud.
To determine whether it’s truly fraud, please have proper dinner dates first. There’s no specific number of dates that defines it, but if someone has gone on four dates without entering into an adult relationship (intimate), most people would conclude that she was actually Type A, not Type B.
That is what fraud means.
Thinking only from your own perspective won’t win anyone else’s agreement.
> Regarding the definition of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan)—
There’s no point bringing social media discussions here. Within Universe, we have dating types so that there’s no need to debate the definition of papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan).
When dating types already exist, there’s no point arguing over whether papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan) means dinner only or an adult relationship (intimate).
> Please tell us how the company currently standardizes its understanding of how types are determined.
It’s exactly as written.
If someone is Type B, you have dinner on the first day and then part ways.
If Japanese is difficult for you, please ask the staff at your local branch.
I’m sure they’ll explain it properly.
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