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I’m a male member who has been active at the club for four years.

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In a recent question about allowances for Black-level women, Mr. Maezawa answered that at least 100,000 yen was necessary. The club doesn’t get involved in allowances, right?! I don’t understand what it means for someone as influential as Mr. Maezawa to publicly state that at least 100,000 yen is necessary. Also, I feel that Platinum- and Black-level women who read this may start casually asking for or demanding that amount. “Don’t you think it’s strange that allowances vary depending on a woman’s class, even though women don’t know their own class? That’s what I think. Why should the club staff be the ones to decide the allowance? I have arrangements with women from every class for the same amount. I believe the only thing the club staff should decide is the setup fee.” (Mr. Kazu’s answer) I completely agree with Mr. Kazu’s answer! Lately, I get the impression that allowances have been going up—though it may just be the women I make offers to. How does everyone else feel about it?
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フラグメーカー
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Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer. This is just my personal opinion, but I think it becomes difficult to have this kind of discussion when the allowance for the first meeting gets lumped together with the ongoing allowance during the relationship. The first meeting is a trial for both sides. For women seeking financial support, I think it’s important to know whether the man has the financial means and余裕 to provide it. Women who ask for a large allowance may of course be thinking, “How much are you willing to pay for my value?” But I feel the stronger sentiment is, “Are you capable of paying a substantial allowance?” Men, on the other hand, tend to think, “I can’t pay more than ¥X. I already have someone else I’m seeing for ¥X. I don’t even know whether she offers more value than that woman, so I don’t want to pay more.” I’m the same way. But this is a dating club where affluent people with plenty of余裕 gather. Once they meet, the first adult relationship (intimate) is a trial for both sides, so the man pays the woman’s requested amount. I feel there should be room for that kind of gentlemanly world, and it’s also important to have that sort of “ideal” in mind. Customers look at reality, but in a sense, it’s only natural for the service provider to talk about dreams and ideals. To be honest, I’m on the lower-income end within the club, so I sometimes think the male members with more money could afford to be more generous. Since I can’t give women a dream through their allowance, I’d like those men to do so in my place. Once you have more money than you need, I’d love to see you move beyond simply receiving fair compensation and transition—somewhat grandiosely—toward social contributions, volunteer work, and making people’s dreams come true. I’ll keep working to increase my income too, so I can catch up and become someone who gives others dreams as well. ^^
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細く長く続けばいいなあ
Age: 50s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member, Fullerene! When opinions like yours are featured, they broaden the perspectives of members and potential members by showing them that there are all kinds of people in the world. I think it’s a great question that gets people talking. As for your question, before discussing fluctuations in the going rate, I’m not really sure because I doubt that the quality of the female members is consistent in the first place—for that particular male member. Even if the quality of the female members were consistent, I’m getting older and declining day by day... That means their quality is improving relative to mine, so I feel that a gradual increase in the amount is only natural.
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紙ひこうき
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Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Hikōki, a male member. If you think of Maezawa as being in charge of promotion, then it’s enough to see it as a good thing if more women are drawn in. Since he’s a staff member, let’s assume he’s on your side. Realistically, if the allowance is higher than what your favorite girl receives, the relationship may not continue. That’s something neither men nor women can really avoid. After four years, you’re probably at the point where the game is nearing its end, so wouldn’t it be fine if offers only came along once in a great while? If so, I don’t think the going rates would bother you anymore either…
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バジル
Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Basil, a male member. Regardless of class, I’m the type who decides the allowance based on my mood at the time, within a certain range. Being high-class doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a maximum. It’s been four months since the state of emergency was lifted, but unlike the questioner, I haven’t seen allowances increase—they seem to have bottomed out. Even women in highly sought-after professions among men have readily agreed to half the amount Mr. Maezawa cited. Also, since Mr. Maezawa tends to be quite generous when it comes to allowances, I personally don’t use his figures as a reference. I see them as being toward the higher end of the going rate.
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🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the President’s Office here. If you’re referring to my answer, it seems you didn’t understand it at all, so I’d appreciate it if you read it properly instead of just skimming it. If the wording is difficult to understand, reading it about ten times might help. Or perhaps I’m simply not very good at writing, in which case, please feel free to skip my answer. Also, nobody decides your allowance for you, so I think you should set it however you like. If that were working well for you, you probably wouldn’t be asking this question. The point is to give people who are struggling or not having things go well some hints about what the problem might be. It may not get through to people who think, “I’m right, I’m the only one who’s right,” but there’s not much I can say when you take issue with that... > Recently, I get the impression that allowances have been getting higher (though this may only apply to the women I make offers to). How do you all feel about it? If you’ve already decided for yourself and don’t want to hear other people’s opinions, then I don’t think there’s any need to ask how others feel about it. But I’ll tell you anyway(笑) As a result of more women stopping their activities due to COVID, there are fewer women participating. Consequently, their value has gone up, and allowances have been changing as well. Women who used to accept low allowances can now afford to ask for a little more because the overall number of active women has decreased. Those women have gradually been raising their asking amounts. Conversely, women who used to command higher allowances have started encountering men who only offer low allowances, so their rates have been coming down a little. The impact of COVID has really been significant. For women who have been putting up with low allowances until now, this is your chance. I recommend stating an asking amount that’s a little higher than usual.
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. Thank you for agreeing with me. Everyone only asks what they want to know and never clicks “Like,” so I often feel a bit lonely getting no reaction. Positive feedback makes it worthwhile to write answers. That said, I think Maezawa-san’s answer and mine are speaking in different contexts. **Maezawa-san:** You shouldn’t discuss the allowance amount while ignoring what the woman wants. If we’re going to talk about a flat amount, let’s provisionally set it at 10. **Me:** I don’t think a woman’s class and her allowance are related. Her class is determined by the club staff, so the setting fee changes, but I don’t think the amount of that fee has any connection to the allowance. Maezawa-san and I are in different positions, so it’s only natural that our opinions may differ. However, I don’t think his answer and mine contradict each other here. If anything, I think we agree that “it’s questionable to discuss the allowance amount based on a woman’s class while ignoring the woman herself.” Oh, I forgot to answer the question. I’m still new, so I don’t know whether allowances have been increasing. Sorry. That said, like Mac-san, I’ve been told three times this month alone that I’m offering women too much allowance. That didn’t happen at all last month. However, I think that’s because I’ve had more unusual dating patterns this month than last month. P.S. Maezawa-san, I think that tacked-on question at the end of the asker’s post was just added so the post would look like a proper question and get published(笑).
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