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Sep 23, 2020 00:39
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I’m considering upgrading to Black membership. If I negotiate an adult relationship (intimate) with a Black woman, would 50,000 yen be considered too little?
At the moment, I negotiate 50,000 yen with Platinum women.
Also, are Black women generally more difficult to deal with because they tend to have high pride?
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🏅 明け方に低頻度で浮上する回答者です
細く長く続けばいいなあ
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member, Fullerene!
Even based on my limited experience, I get the impression that there isn’t as strong a correlation between a woman’s rank and her requested allowance as you might expect. It seems to depend more on how much value the woman herself feels she has.
By the way, even among Standard and Gold members, there were some women with the attitude of, “I normally ask for a five-figure allowance, but I’ll give you a discount,” and that was the amount they requested. They eventually faded out, though.
As I recall, women like that had been assigned a rank that seemed low compared with their appearance.
This may just be my own assumption, but while the class system is certainly a way of ranking the women, I feel it also serves quite a bit to manage male members’ expectations.
(It’s less damaging in various ways to be disappointed by a Standard member than to be disappointed by a Black member.)
If you’re a member, you probably know that some women start at a lower rank because of negative information noted by the staff.
I think there are also cases where a staff member has a negative impression of someone—not enough to write down, but still negative—and starts her at a lower rank.
So when I find myself thinking, “Why is she in this rank?” I try to read between the lines, haha.
黒崎 蓮(スタッフ)
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My name is Kurosaki, and I’m the chief at the Osaka branch of Universe Club.
Women aren’t told what class they’re in. This has probably been discussed here several times, and we also explain it during the interview, so I’ll leave that part out.
That said, thanks to some overly helpful male members, quite a few women do know their own class.
To answer your main question, assuming the woman knows she’s in the Black class, based on the above, I’d say it depends on “your appeal.”
Women don’t judge solely by the size of the allowance or change their priorities based on that alone.
Also, Black-class women have probably been treated well in various ways because of their looks, and learning that they’re in the Black class can make them even more high-handed. So some may be very proud and difficult to deal with—but not all of them are like that♪
Personally, rather than focusing on what the other person is like, I put a lot of thought into “what I can do.” In this case, I’d be thinking, “How can I make her happy to accept 50,000 yen?” and “How can I make even a proud woman want to get closer to me on her own?”
I’m sorry this may not be a very clear answer, but I hope you have a wonderful encounter!
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the CEO’s office here as well.
First of all, Universe arranges dinner dates, so there’s absolutely no problem with the two people agreeing on an allowance for seeing each other after dinner.
As for your question, I assume you’re asking whether it’s okay to offer 5 to Black women, just as you’ve been offering 5 to Platinum women.
The short answer is: no, it isn’t. (laughs)
Think about it carefully. Deciding in advance how much allowance to offer a woman you haven’t even met is about as reckless as saying, “Whenever I buy stock in any company, I’ll pay the same fixed price per share,” without looking at the previous day’s closing price or the stock’s past performance.
Of course, with stocks, all kinds of information is publicly available, so I don’t think anyone actually thinks that way. But when the other party is a woman, does it suddenly become, “I’ll pay this much no matter what,” simply because of a male-centered mindset? I really don’t understand it.
Even fruit can cost tens of thousands of yen at a place like TAKANO if it’s high-quality, attractive, and delicious, while fruit with the exact same name might sell for around 1,000 yen at a supermarket.
I don’t think anyone goes into TAKANO and says, “This should normally be 1,000 yen, shouldn’t it?” And if someone did, people around them would probably give them a strange look.
To get back to the point, if you decide in advance how much you’re willing to pay, I think it needs to be an amount that would satisfy most women. Realistically, 10 would probably be the minimum.
But that’s not really what I’m trying to say.
There’s another person involved, so I want you to discuss it properly with her. The amount will also depend on how much you like that particular woman.
Even if she says that 5 is fine, someone else may come along afterward and offer her 10, in which case you could end up being dropped.
If she’s someone you’d like to keep seeing, you need to adjust the allowance so that doesn’t happen.
Also, when it comes to Black women, there are many men who offer substantial amounts. If you find yourself wondering why things worked fine with this allowance before but suddenly don’t, it may be because the difference in allowance means yours is relatively too low.
If you don’t have that kind of financial leeway, I recommend staying with Platinum women as before.
If you can afford it but simply want to know what others are offering, I suggest trying Black and asking the women what they’re looking for. You’ll gradually get a feel for it.
Until then, offering a little more than necessary is probably the best way to avoid mistakes.
When you’re playing in a place for people with money to spare, you shouldn’t be stingy.
Even if it initially feels like you’ve lost out, your reputation will steadily improve, and you may start getting introduced to good women first.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
One day recently, my wife was holding an umbrella whose shaft had bent at a right angle and muttered dejectedly, “I wonder if it can be fixed…” I took it from her and used my thighs and both hands to bend it back with a series of grunts. It ended up almost perfectly straight again, and my wife seemed delighted as she said, “It works! It works!”
That night, instead of immediately kicking me away as she usually does when I make advances in bed, she let me hold her without resisting. Huh? Could this mean…? And then we even kissed… Wait, what? She let me hold her again the next day… Is it really that simple? I’m Paper Airplane, a male member who’s still amazed by it all.
If the questioner is lucky, she may continue to yield to you just as you hope.
If you’re unlucky, though… Huh? Twice as much, and then twice that again? Even your pride…
But if you let the opportunity pass, you won’t even get the chance to test your luck.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
Don’t you think it’s strange that the allowance varies depending on a woman’s class, even though the women themselves don’t know what class they’re in? I do. Why should the club staff get to decide the allowance?
I offer the same amount to women in every class. In my opinion, the club staff should only be setting the arrangement fee.
Personally, I find that women in the Black class are often easier to get along with.
Other
I’m Gaku, a male member.
I think there are quite a few women—whether they’re Black or Platinum—who have a lot of pride and can be difficult to approach. You don’t really need to worry about the rank.
If the woman you like is in the Black category, then upgrading makes sense. If not, there’s no point.
Also, regarding the amount, even Platinum women may tell you that your offer is too low.
Personally, I offer the same amount to both Black and Gold women.