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I’m a male member, and I currently see a female member on a regular basis, about once a month. We usually meet for 5 with an adult relationship in a room, and I add 1 when we stay overnight.

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We’re planning to take a two-night trip soon, but I’m unsure how much would be appropriate. If you’re a male member, how much would you offer? Also, in this situation, how much would female members generally expect? We’re often together for about 24 hours when we stay overnight as usual. Would adding an extra amount be appropriate? I’m asking to hear everyone’s opinions as a reference, aside from simply asking her directly.
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I’m Tetsu, a male member. Sorry, but I’m pretty frugal, so I pay the same allowance whether it’s a day trip, an overnight stay, or a longer trip(笑). That said, when we travel, I’m happy to accommodate any requests about places they want to visit or things they want to eat. I also book ultra-luxury rooms at hotels, creating experiences they probably couldn’t have on a trip with friends. Maybe the women appreciate those considerations, because I’ve never had anyone complain. If a woman sets her allowance based on a per-night rate, I wouldn’t go out of my way to invite her on a trip. It’s much easier to have dinner and be intimate somewhere nearby, then say goodbye. If you really want to travel, why not use the club at your destination and enjoy meeting someone new?(笑)
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I’m Hikōki, a male member who finds it rather endearing when the person asking is worried about these things. If you’ve already stayed overnight and are asking this question, has it been less than six months or a year? Are you worried that the extra allowance for staying overnight may not be enough? From the female member’s perspective, since you only see each other about once a month, I don’t think she’s particularly concerned about the allowance amount—at least not as much as you might imagine. She may have another papa (a male supporter), or perhaps she simply isn’t looking to receive that much each month. What matters most is whether you can put your own mind at ease. You’re wondering whether an extra ¥10,000 is enough, considering how happy you were to spend 24 hours together overnight, right? Honestly, it’s nowhere near enough. It would have been barely enough even if you’d given her nothing extra. As someone like me who feels uncomfortable treating sex as something you pay for, if you spent the entire following day together—not just until lunchtime—you’d naturally want to show her how much you enjoyed it too. Simply put, if you think of it not as one overnight stay but as meeting twice—spending time together in a room on the first day and going out for a meal on the second—it wouldn’t be strange for there to be an allowance equivalent to a second meeting as well. Of course, it would be out of the question for her to demand it, but expressing how you feel can also be a way of showing your happiness and how much you value her. That said, if the amount is too high, the joy quickly loses its meaning. That’s why it’s something you can agonize over—and that’s part of the fun, too. If a woman asked me for ¥30,000, or even ¥20,000, I’d be horrified… So in the end, you have to judge her feelings and decide for yourself. I think this kind of uncertainty is probably part of the excitement as well. As things stand, I think the extra amount is fine as it is. Anything between the consumption tax on the room allowance and the equivalent of a late-night wage premium should be perfectly reasonable. For a trip, I think it would be fine to ask for double the room allowance. Judging from how often you meet, she probably has a simple standard of her own, so I imagine you’ll get a straightforward answer.
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I’m Flag Maker, a column writer. I don’t think it’s something you need to overthink. Just trust her and offer a little more than usual. If it’s too much, she’ll let you know—at least, she should, haha.
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I’m Kazu, a male member. As Maezawa-san said, what matters isn’t what other people are doing, but whether both parties feel comfortable with the arrangement. When you discuss taking a trip, shouldn’t you also discuss the allowance? Wouldn’t it be disappointing if one of you later said, “That wasn’t what I had in mind”? Just as you’re feeling uneasy now, the woman may be feeling uneasy too. To answer your question, if it were a two-night trip, I think I’d probably ask, “How about 10?” That doesn’t mean I’d offer 30 for a six-night overseas trip. In that case, I probably wouldn’t suggest going together in the first place. A woman’s desire to go on the trip would probably affect her allowance expectations too, so I think it really depends on the individual situation. > “If she said, ‘I’d like something extra because I was tied up for so long today,’ I’d give it to her, but I’d never see her again.” I agree. I’d probably give it to her too, but I wouldn’t see her again. I say “probably” because no one has ever said that to me. I’d probably end up thinking, “I should’ve used that money to buy an unexpected gift for ○○-chan—one of my other partners.” Honestly, it might be kind of refreshing if a woman were completely upfront and said, “I want a big allowance, so I’m happy to do anything.”
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Maezawa from the CEO’s office here. I think what matters isn’t what other people are doing, but whether the woman you’re seeing can be comfortable with the arrangement, so I’d suggest asking her directly. If you normally give her 5, then for an overnight stay, it seems natural to think of two nights and three days as three days’ worth—and therefore an allowance of three times as much (15).
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