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Sep 6, 2020 18:20
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After spending our date listening to him go on about how wealthy he was, he asked what allowance I wanted. I told him, but then he said—in an oddly humble tone—that it would be difficult to see each other long-term at that amount, and offered half instead. (I declined the arrangement.)
At a dating club, I don’t think you can promise a long-term arrangement when meeting someone for the first time.
I believe a long-term arrangement means becoming close, building mutual trust, and only then receiving a monthly allowance.
Of course, it’s entirely possible that, in his eyes, I simply wasn’t worth the amount I requested.
But if that was the case, I wish he had just stated the amount he was comfortable with more openly.
For reference, the allowance I requested was under ¥50,000, so I don’t think it was particularly unreasonable.
My question is: when deciding on a pay-per-meeting allowance, do you also consider continuing the arrangement long-term?
3 answers
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m だて◎ゆめ, a male member.
> When deciding on the pay-per-meeting allowance, do you consider maintaining a long-term relationship?
In my case, I negotiate with a long-term arrangement in mind from the very beginning.
When I first make an offer, I start by checking the box for something like “long-term financial support,” and I also add a comment saying, “I’m looking for a long-term relationship of two to three years.”
That said, women seem to react to the checkbox and comment with little more than a casual “Oh, I see,” so they don’t make much of an impression.
Although I do pay per meeting, once the relationship actually begins, it can become difficult to revise the allowance if the initial amount was set too high. In some cases, I may feel I have no choice but to end the relationship, so I’m careful when negotiating the initial allowance.
When I meet with the woman repeatedly, the monthly allowance and dates continue along the lines originally agreed upon, and the relationship naturally becomes long-term. I also start to feel that my spare funds are steadily increasing.
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
I think you’re absolutely right to turn it down.
> I believe a long-term relationship means getting to know each other, building mutual trust, and only then receiving a monthly allowance.
I agree. I also don’t think a long-term relationship necessarily has to involve a monthly arrangement.
I believe a long-term relationship can work on a pay-per-meeting basis too, so I strongly prefer that approach. When discussing an allowance for an adult relationship (intimate), I’m assuming we’re considering a long-term relationship from the outset. So, we first agree on a pay-per-meeting allowance and see how things go. If it works out, we continue meeting and I give her the same allowance each time. I feel that way avoids either of us thinking, “Wait, what?”
To answer your question, I don’t think promising a long-term relationship before sleeping together means much. It may carry some meaning afterward, but even if things weren’t great in bed, if she asked, “Will you see me again?” I’d probably say yes so as not to hurt her feelings. So aside from a monthly arrangement being discussed after sleeping together, it doesn’t seem to mean much.
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Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
I’m Maezawa from the President’s Office, and I’ll answer this as well.
> At a dating club, I don’t think you can promise a long-term relationship when meeting someone for the first time.
There are exceptions, though.
For example, if you receive a flood of offers and don’t know when you’ll be able to meet again, but you definitely want to meet twice a month, you might bring up a long-term arrangement from the start, partly as a way of securing future bookings.
That said, as you mentioned, even if the topic comes up at the first meeting, things may turn out differently than expected later, and it may not develop into anything long-term.
This time, you said you communicated a desired allowance of less than five, so I assume you said four or three.
Half of that would be two or 1.5.
He’s probably either a man who hasn’t read the Q&A section or someone trying to trick a woman into being intimate with him cheaply. So, to keep men like that from getting emboldened, it’s important to clearly say no when something makes you uncomfortable.
I think your response this time was entirely reasonable.
That said, even though the club doesn’t get involved in allowances for private arrangements, it seems to me that situations like this can only hurt the club. I think they should voluntarily leave.
If this is bringing down Universe’s reputation, it could potentially be costing Universe hundreds of millions of yen in the long run.
> When deciding the pay-per-meeting allowance, do you consider continuing the relationship long-term?
In the case of a financially struggling man, I imagine it might be something like, “I’ll pay eight a month, but I want to meet four times,” perhaps so he can get his money’s worth.
But I don’t think many women would agree to that.