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Sep 3, 2020 21:05
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I’m Type A, and after a man I had met treated me to dinner on our first date, he said something like, “Let’s kiss,” when we got into the elevator together.
When I hesitated, he said, “I’m paying well over ¥100,000 just to see you, you know? Have you even thought about how I feel?” I already had a feeling after dinner that he wasn’t someone I’d want to see again, but he was extremely intimidating, and since we were in a confined space—the elevator—I couldn’t go against him.
I don’t think there are any set rules, so I’d like to hear everyone’s opinions. Should someone who’s Type A be expected to accept at least kissing?
This happened a little while ago, and it’s not as though I’m particularly hurt by it, but it’s been bothering me, so I decided to post here.
Thank you.
7 answers
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member.
> “I’m paying over ¥100,000 just to see you, you know? Don’t you care how I feel?”
How lame.
Since that money didn’t go to you, just think, “That’s not my problem.” Saying that outright might create unnecessary trouble, so whether you say anything is up to you.
You’re not obligated to kiss someone regardless of their type. Even with a Type D arrangement, I think it’s perfectly fine to refuse a kiss.
So the answer is: “No, it’s not included. It isn’t part of the terms of the dating club arrangement.” Unless you explicitly agreed that kissing was okay when discussing the allowance, you have every right to refuse.
At a dating club, women can say no to anything they don’t want to do. Men who don’t understand that aren’t suited for dating clubs. And getting pushy when someone refuses is completely unacceptable.
Not all male members are stupid like that.
Other
I’m Tetsu, a male member.
As a fellow man, I thought, “That’s seriously pathetic.” Isn’t that basically no different from rape? The only difference is whether the threat is a knife or money.
Since you’re an A-type, I don’t think you need to agree to demands like that. Otherwise, things could gradually get pushed into a physical relationship.
You’re really keeping the Magikarp thing going, huh? lol Ever since the topic of Magikarp kisses came up, I’ve started feeling a little uneasy whenever I kiss someone—“Wait, was that kiss a Magikarp?”
Other
I’m RIN, a female member.
“Because she’s Type A and I spent money, a kiss is about as far as I can go?”
You really don’t get it.
Wanting to kiss someone, or being okay with kissing, means wanting—or being okay with—things going further. That’s how I see it.
If you pressure her and force it, she’ll assume you’ll expect the same next time, and you’ll give her the huge misconception that she might be willing to go further.
Doing it in an elevator is especially despicable.
I think it’s perfectly fine to firmly refuse and block him.
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flagmaker, a column writer.
This may sound strange, but do women really not slap people that often?
Maybe I’m just the kind of person who gets slapped easily.
I think they could slap me more, though.
I just want to find some fellow people who’ve been slapped, lol.
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe staff
Maezawa from the CEO’s office here.
I believe this was explained when you joined, but since this is a matter of free dating, it’s entirely up to each person how they chooses to proceed.
No matter how much the other person has spent, that money wasn’t paid to you, so it has nothing to do with you.
> “I’ve paid over a hundred thousand yen just to see you, you know? Don’t you think about how I feel?”
That makes absolutely no sense. You could say, “You can come talk to me once you’ve given that money to me first.” That’s when you’ll finally be starting from the same line as me.
So, regarding:
> “Should someone classified as Type A at least accept kissing?”
No, there’s no need to accept it.
Even with Type D or Type C, she might not have kissed him. It sounds like this man was taking advantage of a woman’s kindness for no good reason.
If anything, I’d want him to say something like:
“Your lips are such a beautiful shade of pink. Their shape is gorgeous, too. I’m completely crazy about you, lips and all.”
Although, if you say, “This isn’t romance, so what are you talking about?” that could be awkward.
Something like this would be fine, too:
“Would you be my kissing partner? I’ll give you the allowance you’re asking for. Is 50,000 yen okay?”
But perhaps there are a lot of men who can only think about how much they’ve spent at clubs and restaurants.
Of course, you may still be turned down. Even then, please remember that Type A means dinner only, and remain a gentleman.
Then again, after saying, “Your lips are such a beautiful shade of pink,” she might reply:
“I bought this lipstick recently. I really like the color.”
And the conversation could go in a completely different direction.(笑)
🏅 大阪の昼寝引きこもりトレーダー
スペ90以下のひとを厚く囲い込み、一生面倒見て実質一夫多妻で大切にしたい独身です。
Age: 50s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m a male member in Seattle.
I have three Type A companions, but even after six months, I still haven’t touched any of them.
I wonder if I’d get slapped for trying a Magikarp kiss. Maybe I’ll try negotiating 30,000 yen next time.
🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中!
B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです!
会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Paper Airplane, a male member.
Even with an A-type arrangement, I’d like to share a goodbye kiss when parting after the first meeting. At the very least, I’d like us to hold hands.
Of course, some A-type women are extremely averse to physical contact—for example, they won’t get in a car or hold hands at first. But since those things can now be discussed online beforehand, I simply don’t go on an actual date with them.
Since she’s A-type, I don’t think there will be any pushy men involved, so I believe the person asking can decide naturally whether or not to take things further with her partner.
As for how men who offer to meet A-type women view the possibilities:
Generally speaking, because she’s A-type, I’d estimate the chances as:
- Progressing to an adult relationship (intimate): almost zero, around 0.1%
- Kissing: 25%
- Holding hands: 55%
I understand that, but even if the chance is only 0.1%—almost impossible—that actually makes me more motivated to try. In ordinary dating, there isn’t an expectation of an adult relationship in the first place.
Then, based on how things go, I decide whether to see where things lead, continue trying to deepen the relationship, carefully gauge her feelings and our emotional compatibility, maintain a certain distance, or continue seeing her.
Sometimes things progress smoothly, one step after another. Other times, even after meeting hundreds of times, things never progress beyond a kiss.
When continuing a relationship with an A-type woman—or someone similar—the most important thing to me is the emotional connection.
As a result, things may or may not progress. As a man, I do have the desire for things to progress, but whether they do or not feels more like a bonus. It isn’t the main focus.