Tips Aug 23, 2020 22:39

I have a question I’d like to ask.

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In Kazu’s comment: “All the Black-tier women I’ve met so far have agreed on an allowance of 5. The information you find online about the going rates for women in each class—that’s all false. On the other hand, it’s the Gold- and Platinum-tier women who won’t agree on the allowance. Interesting, isn’t it? Perhaps women in the Black tier don’t worry about minor details. I find myself nodding in agreement that Black-tier women are simply different in terms of their character as people.” Personally, I feel that because Black-tier women receive fewer offers, more of them may be willing to continue for 5. But is that really the case? Conversely, popular Gold- and Platinum-tier women, especially those who are Type C, probably receive a lot of offers. If they accepted 5 from everyone, they’d end up having an adult relationship (intimate) with almost all 20–30 of them, which seems like it would be physically unsustainable. So I wonder whether they set a higher allowance and continue with around five people who offer the most, out of all the offers they receive. What do you think? Also, I’m very skeptical about the going rates mentioned on online blogs. Are these simply individual people making their own guesses and posting them on their blogs?
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間宮(銀座スタッフ)
間宮(銀座スタッフ) Female Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 ユニバースグループで働くスタッフの間宮です。
12年目のお局様👄クールビューティーに見えて中身はチャランポランです♪
Age: 30s 👩 Female Universe staff
Universe Tokyo, Mamiya, answering here. I think you’re absolutely right. One of the appealing qualities of women in the Black class may be their flexibility and ability to deal with anyone. Platinum women and struggling entertainers who say they can’t do this or that are essentially on the same level—they want to define their own value. A woman who truly believes she’s outstanding doesn’t necessarily need to be in the Black class. Honestly, I don’t think the allowance amount associated with each class is related to a woman’s level either.
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前澤(スタッフ)
前澤(スタッフ) Male Column Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 あなたの味方
お役に立てれば幸いです。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the president’s office here with an answer as well. I haven’t asked the women involved, so I don’t know the exact details, but… If you write that the allowance is high, men will resent you. (lol) You’ll attract guys saying, “I want to pay less!” So if you write that the allowance isn’t all that high, the number of male members increases, and Universe Club is laughing all the way to the bank. It can also be a way to brag, like: “Maybe everyone else has to pay that much, but I’m so good-looking that she says yes without me having to pay that much.” (lol) I don’t know the truth myself, though. If you’re interested in a man who’s already a member, try upgrading him to Black and sending him an offer—you’ll find out. If he isn’t a member yet, have him join and you’ll find out. I don’t know whether it’s because of COVID, but now might be the perfect time… maybe? (lol) Men can apply for membership here: https://universe-club.jp/contact/entry/men.php
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フラグメーカー
フラグメーカー Male Column Send a reverse offer to this responder
🏅 40歳でリアル異世界転生したオッサン l 元金融マン → 現AI界隈
出張ホストの実技試験合格してるので、対女性への無難な前戯とかマナーに一定の知見あり。
Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer. I’ve sometimes given allowances of 10 or 8 at the other person’s request, while other times the allowance has been lower. Whether high or low, I paid whatever amount the woman requested. If she didn’t have a specific amount in mind, I’d suggest 5, and that would become the agreed amount. That said, in the end, I tend to continue seeing people who are fine with a lower allowance anyway ^^; I blog too, and I think adding affiliate links tends to make people “embellish” their content. That’s just how it is. I use Google AdSense, so I mainly focus on page views. My aim is to gain regular readers by making the content interesting.
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I’m Tetsu, a male member. I think everyone has their own way of looking at allowances. For example, say you meet a woman who’s exactly your type and would like to date her, so you ask, “Would 5 work for you?” She replies, “My friends say they get at least 10, so I’d want at least 8.” How would you see it? Would you trust the market rate of 10 that her friend mentioned, the 8 she herself is asking for, or your own valuation of 5? I imagine the senior members of this club trust their own values. That’s my personal understanding of what helps people stay active in the club for a long time. I sometimes come across blogs about papa-katsu (compensated dating in Japan), but I only take them as someone else’s story and think, “I guess things like that happen.” I’m not gullible enough to believe things when I have no way of knowing whether they’re true. As an aside, the example I mentioned earlier is something I actually experienced shortly after joining this club.(笑)
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🏅 倶楽部女性のご主人様に潤いを!
Mパパ、永遠の交際継続中! B1タイプ〜A寄りパパです! 会う度大人は嫌と感じる方………ご相談ください。
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m male member 肝部太郎—no, I mean Paper Airplane. > If a popular Gold or Platinum woman is Type C or something similar, she probably gets quite a lot of offers. If she accepted five, she’d end up having an adult relationship with nearly all 20 or 30 men, so I don’t think her body could handle that. Wouldn’t she raise her allowance accordingly and continue seeing around five men who offered the highest allowances? I have no objections to that view. The trend is especially noticeable at the fes. Also, perhaps Kaz-san wasn’t writing exclusively about that point. Even with Gold or Platinum women, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went over five when the amount was appropriate. But if it wasn’t, I would be surprised—and would end up turning them down. The club and papa-katsu itself already involve only a tiny fraction of people “behind the scenes,” and the percentage of those who are also interested in blogs and the like is even smaller. So I suppose it’s a world consisting of a tiny subset of an even tinier subset of people. (I’m not interested in it at all…)
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カズ
Age: Private 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Kazu, a male member. Regarding your question, that may be the case. What I had in mind while writing my earlier answer was the fact that all the men I know who earn around ¥7 million or more a year choose their employers based not on salary, but on the nature of the work. To be more specific, they would choose a job they’re interested in paying ¥7.5 million over a not-very-interesting job paying ¥9 million. If you’re a male member of Universe, I think you’ll probably understand what I mean. In my experience, money can motivate people for only a few months at most, no matter how large the amount is. I’ve reflected a little on using the strong phrase “personal qualities.” Behind that comment was the fact that, as long as the woman is someone I find wonderful, the allowance—whether 50, 80, or 100—isn’t really an issue for me. Though 200 would surprise me. I’d still probably pay it if I felt it was justified. Going back to the salary example, a difference of a few hundred thousand yen a year must seem like a minor issue to someone who has other priorities. I used “personal qualities” to mean not being fixated on the amount and not being controlled by money. Also, regarding the 20 to 30 women you mentioned, I think most women would take a break before things ever got that far. Almost no woman would use the site like some kind of dating site. In fact, among the women I met over the course of a month, three had either asked to be made secret or taken a break because they were receiving too many offers. I also find the market-rate information on blogs strange. I suppose they’re just making guesses. There doesn’t seem to be any other source, after all. An addition after reading Tetsu’s answer: I think you’re absolutely right. Even if a woman is exactly my type, I don’t think I place much value on the sex itself. The pleasure you get from sex is more or less the same regardless of the woman, isn’t it? If I paid more than I do other partners to sleep with someone, I can imagine myself becoming philosophical afterward and thinking, “Well, it was pretty ordinary. Why did I compromise, you idiot? I should have given ○○ a bonus instead.” I don’t want to have those thoughts, so I keep the amount uniform. As an aside, the largest allowance I’ve ever paid was over 200 pay-per-meeting. It wasn’t through a club; it was through an acquaintance’s introduction. I was given a receipt. I decided on the spot that something like that would make a good once-in-a-lifetime experience, and paid it. I think it’s fine for something like that to happen once in a lifetime—and I can write about it now, after all—so I have no regrets or remorse. After reading Flagmaker’s answer, I thought the wording “we reached an agreement” might be misunderstood, so I’d like to clarify. First, I ask the woman what allowance she wants. If she says 50, I agree. Some women say 80 or 100, but if they have their own reasons—such as coming from far away—I agree to that as well. Otherwise, I decline. I’ve never asked anyone to lower her amount. (Once, I declined a woman who asked for 100, and for some reason she became annoyed, saying she hadn’t asked me to lower it and that I wouldn’t lower it.) Naturally, sometimes the woman doesn’t state an amount and asks me instead. Things like, “What do you usually do?” or “Whatever you feel is appropriate.” In those cases, I offer 50 including transportation. That’s what I mean when I say I always offer 50 including transportation. The transportation I have in mind is local travel, so if, for example, it takes an hour each way to reach the meeting place, I increase the amount. Also, if it looks like she’ll be getting home late, I put ¥10,000 in the envelope in advance for a taxi. Since the allowance requested by women with Black status—or the allowance I offer when they ask me—has never been anything other than 50, I wrote, “For now, all of the Black-status women have reached an agreement with me at an allowance of 50.”
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