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Aug 3, 2020 17:37
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I had an online date with someone and exchanged contact information. Our in-person date is still a little way off, but I’m already exhausted by communicating with him and, honestly, don’t want to meet him.
The reason I’m exhausted is that he expects frequent communication, almost like we’re a couple. I’ve never been the type to want constant contact, and even in club-based dating, I prefer to communicate only when necessary.
With people I’ve actually met and gone on dates with, I tell them that I’m not good at frequent communication and don’t want to be pressured into it. I want an arrangement that isn’t a hassle for either of us. The only people I’ve continued seeing are those who agree that frequent messages would be inconvenient and that we only need to stay in touch when necessary.
I wish I’d told him this during the online date, but he only said afterward, by email, that he wanted to exchange lots of messages every day. (I know, I should have clearly turned him down at that point.)
※The issue is that there were no terms during the online date that I couldn’t accept, so I exchanged contact information, but afterward he brought up less favorable terms. Since he was my first offer, I wondered if everyone at the club expected women to sacrifice their private time for frequent communication, so I didn’t complain and simply went along with him.
I heard that he’s a black-tier member and that the club charges a very high fee for setting up dates with him.
If I told him that I’d paid that much and then decided I didn’t want to meet after all because we weren’t a good match, he’d be angry, wouldn’t he? (Although I assume online offers cost about half that amount.)
It also feels discourteous to cancel after we’ve already set a date, regardless of the money involved, so I haven’t been able to contact him.
I’m torn between canceling immediately, prepared for him to lash out and complain to the club, or meeting him once and then turning him down.
However, he wants a date where we meet during his work break, have sex at a hotel, and then part ways, so if I meet him, I’ll absolutely have to do that.
Looking back, I honestly wonder why I ever agreed to terms that make me feel like I’m being treated as a sex worker.
Since we’ve already had our first meeting through the club and this is now a private relationship, I feel like it’s okay to clearly turn him down. Would it be all right to say honestly, “This has become too much of a burden for me, so I can’t do it”?
I’ve already decided who I want to continue seeing and have put my club membership on hold, so I don’t mind receiving a bad review. But just in case, should I also tell the club that I felt unable to continue and canceled even though we had already set a date?
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I’m BB7, a male member.
If you don’t want to, just say no. It’s as simple as that.
Both men and women should only meet the people they actually want to meet.
Even if it hurts your rating or you get harshly criticized by men or women, it’s impossible to be liked by everyone.
Other
I’m Tetsu, a male member.
Anyone can change their mind. So if you’re not feeling it, I think it’s perfectly fine to politely decline. However, since you already agreed to meet, you should clearly explain what concerns you have and try to reconcile your expectations.
That’s the reasonable answer. But frankly, your attitude makes me question your character.
What do you mean by thinking it’s okay to receive a bad review just because the person you want to continue seeing happens to be taking a break from the club? You’re essentially saying, “I won’t be using the club anymore, so it doesn’t matter if I do something wrong.” You’re casually trying to repay the club—which gave you the opportunity to meet someone well—with ingratitude.
If you turn him down and he files a complaint with the club, the staff will have to deal with a completely unnecessary issue. Please think carefully about how many people your selfish attitude could inconvenience.
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Maezawa from Shacho-shitsu here as well.
> I’m already exhausted by communicating with him, and honestly, I don’t want to meet him.
First, I think you should tell him that.
He’s probably excited right now and sending you messages one after another. But if that’s becoming stressful, try explaining what kind of relationship you’re looking for and see how he responds.
If he still keeps sending messages nonstop, then he may simply be a man who only thinks about himself. But he might also say, “I didn’t realize it was bothering you. I’ll keep it to a minimum.”
> You’d get angry if he said he no longer wanted to meet because we’re ultimately not a good match, right?
Yes, I would be upset.
More than the money, I think the hardest part would be getting excited about meeting someone, only to have the meeting called off.
> We’ve already had our first meeting through the club, so this would be private dating now. I feel like it’s okay to clearly turn him down, but is it really okay?
As I explained at the beginning, even in a club-arranged first date—not just an online introduction—both people have the right to decline private dating.
With online introductions, it can be unclear which meeting counts as the first one, but—
Yes, it’s okay to turn him down.
Since this is private dating, you’re free to choose not to meet if you don’t feel comfortable.
However—
and this is important—
From the way you’ve written your question, it sounds like you wouldn’t have a problem as long as you only had the minimum amount of contact. I don’t know whether that’s truly how you feel, but if the frequent messages are the only thing bothering you, you could explain that clearly and suggest:
“Let’s not contact each other again until the day we meet, and then we can enjoy ourselves.”
If you propose that, he probably won’t contact you again before the date. (Naturally, that’s because he wants to meet you.)
You can meet him once and then decide what you want to do going forward.
You also wrote:
> “Looking back, I can’t believe I agreed to terms that made me feel like I was being treated as though I were in the sex industry.”
So perhaps the real issue is that you agreed to discuss H—intimacy—before meeting him.
If that’s the case, tell him how you feel and ask to meet for dinner only. You could say that he’s welcome to invite you somewhere afterward, but that there’s a good chance you’ll decline.
You could even say, “Please court me properly.”
Then simply enjoy a normal date. Afterward, if he invites you to continue things, you can decide based on whether you had a good time that day—something like, “I’ll probably say no, but if I enjoyed myself, maybe I’ll say yes.”
The man may wonder, “Why dinner only now?” But he might still be willing to give it a try, thinking that meeting you this way is better than not meeting at all.
If he says he won’t meet unless intimacy is involved, then you can consider it a success that you found that out without having to turn him down yourself.
P.S.
“The hardest thing of all! Listen! The hardest thing of all is overcoming yourself! I’m going to overcome my own fate from here on out!!”
—Rohan Kishibe
Incidentally, Rohan Kishibe was supposed to be just a supporting character, but at this point it feels like he may have more fans than the main characters.
There also seem to be more collaborations featuring Rohan Kishibe than the main JOJO characters—perhaps because there are simply too many of them.
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Age: 40s
👨 Male
Universe member
I’m Flag Maker, a column writer.
This is really difficult.
With men like that, turning him down could potentially lead to complaints against you or the club.
So let’s come up with a “lie he can accept.” You’re under no obligation to be honest with someone you haven’t even met.
The male member is paying the club—not you personally as an allowance yet, right?
As for anyone who might file a complaint:
They will never reach the truth.
(Quote from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure)
That’s my personal theory, after dealing with countless grumpy old men who’ve filed complaints.
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Age: 60s
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I’m Joe, a male member.
Sorry, but first, please let me vent what’s been screaming in Joe’s head.
Are you possibly an unbelievably stupid person?
Since you seem prepared for criticism, I won’t hold back.
Joe isn’t criticizing you for changing your mind. Losing interest in meeting someone because their reaction wasn’t what you expected may not be admirable, but at least I think it’s a very human response.
You haven’t actually met yet, so if you properly explain how you feel to them at this stage, I’d actually find that quite respectable.
That said, I genuinely cannot understand why you would post a question here that makes your brain practically spill out of your head—or rather, one that is completely brainless—just because this service is free. You should immediately explain your feelings to the person, politely and honestly. You don’t have time to read the other answers.
P.S. I understand that this site serves not only as a place to ask questions but also as a form of counseling. But this consultation? I simply can’t accept it. “There’s such a thing as taking it too far!” was my first reaction upon reading it.
You may have found Joe’s blunt tone unpleasant, but please try to understand what I’m getting at.
Also, thinking, “Since it’s an online date, the offer fee should be half, right?” is your prerogative—but saying it out loud is just stupid, in my opinion. That one comment gives away that all your seemingly humble remarks were a lie.