Tips Jul 27, 2020 11:58

I’m a male member. This may be very basic, but I’d like to confirm the rules for a first date.

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The arrangement is two hours of dining plus two hours of private time. Is the club’s ¥5,000–¥10,000 transportation fee compensation for the two hours of dining? Do female members understand—or do staff explain to them—that the two hours of private time comes with an additional allowance regardless of whether an adult relationship (intimate) takes place? Until now, I’ve always given ¥10,000 as transportation money regardless of the class, but I haven’t paid any additional allowance for the two hours of private time when there was no adult relationship—for example, when I asked her to accompany me to a second venue, such as a bar. I believed that she agreed to come along after I asked whether she wanted to go to a second venue, but perhaps it was difficult for her to decline, and I’m now worried that I may have made her spend two hours at a second venue without any allowance. I’d appreciate your advice.
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Age: Private 👨 Male Universe staff
Maezawa from the president’s office here as well. > Is the club’s ¥5,000–¥10,000 transportation allowance compensation for the two-hour dinner? I believe so. I think this was explained when you joined, but the idea is that during the date, you first have a meal and get a feel for each other. After that, the two of you are free to decide what you’d like to do—such as going to a bar or karaoke. In other words, at Universe, the club’s arrangement covers the date through the meal. Going to a bar or karaoke afterward, or having an adult relationship (intimate), is up to the two of you. You decide together how to spend that time. The woman is free to go home after the meal, or you can spend more time together at a bar, or have an adult relationship (intimate). How you handle the allowance for that time is also up to the two of you. > I asked her if she wanted to go somewhere for a second stop, and she agreed to come with me, but I’m worried that she may have felt unable to refuse and that I made her spend two hours with me without any additional allowance. I think the most important thing is being considerate and interacting with her thoughtfully. Rather than focusing on the rules, what matters is considering how she feels. As far as the rules go, since anything after the club-arranged date is mutually agreed-upon, my understanding is that allowances are generally part of dating through an arrangement club. However, as Mac said, if the woman doesn’t raise any complaint, this is not something the club needs to get involved in. If more people like you take a moment to wonder whether everything is okay, I think it will lead to more positive encounters through the club.
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Age: 40s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m Column Writer Flag Maker. So, from the first meeting, you’re going to a second venue with no allowance beyond transportation costs, right? I always play things safe, so if an adult relationship isn’t going to happen at the first meeting, I always wrap things up after about a two-hour meal. Taking the cautious approach, I think it’s better to avoid going to a second venue on the first day without a separate allowance. That said, under the club’s rules, a date of up to four hours seems to be fine, so technically, it should be allowed.
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Age: 60s 👨 Male Universe member
I’m a male member named Basil. I only have a handful of examples, but even when I’ve gone on a second date after no adult relationship on the first meeting, I generally haven’t added anything extra. There are exceptions, such as covering the equivalent of a taxi fare on a rainy day. Since I want to consider future arrangements too, I try not to be overly generous when it’s dinner only. Even if she complained, I doubt the club would reprimand me.
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I’m Paper Airplane, a male member. I consider the transportation fee to cover the time we actually spend together—it’s used up once we meet. Women probably aren’t just reluctant to say no; they feel unable to refuse. > Two hours of free dating without an adult relationship If you collected the data, the average might be somewhere between 3 and 5… If you’re not willing to pay around that much, it might be better not to meet at all. > Two hours at a second venue with no allowance Exactly. It’s a way of showing that she wasn’t interested, so there would be no allowance. It’s probably safe to assume there was no allowance for the preceding two-hour meal either.
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